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From: Larry Martin <support@lamartin.org>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: documents location
Date:
09/16/2007 22:43:46
Hi, Rob/PaulB -
Great! Have finally found others who have stumbled
onto this new little
feature.
Have been slowly integrating Vista into one of my customer's
SBS2k3 networks
and have noticed the same thing. So far, unable to
find an answer on the
web.
Here's what it looks like to me - Window Vista,
operating in Active
Directory with user file redirection enabled looks
like it masquerades the
redirected folder when a Vista user has logged on.
The folder still exists
but it's very difficult to resolve for any other
authenticated user as well
as the domain administrator/equivalent.
Am trying to stay objective about this little feature
but it is very
confusing. Have found that if I look at a folder
properties, it is possible
to identify the owner by looking at who has full
rights to the area. Even
this can be misleading if multiple users have full
access (shouldn't happen
with folder redirection but it could).
The problem is further aggrevated when there are
multiple Vista users with
redirected folders. Now you can have multiple entries
for the 'Documents'
folder and there's no way to easily differentiate
between the users.
I can kinda see why the true folder name is concealed
- when a Vista
(business or higher) user logs on, the redirected
folder (usually their Home
directory) is labeled 'Document' to discourage others
from attempting to
open a file that the user (owner) may have open.
Haven't figured out
Microsoft's real logic here, but the strategy is kinda
clear.
Once a Vista user logs off, the real folder name is easily identified by
browsing the structure.
Confusing to say the least and I'm not sure that I
agree with the logic.
The whole idea throws a wrench into the works and I
haven't figured out how
to use the tool.
I'd like to see more discussion on it. The topic may
be discussed in one
of Microsoft's certification courses... i.e., 70-622
(I think) but until
then yer guess is as good as mine.
One thing I have noticed is that 'if a user has mapped
a drive to the target
redidrected folder, then the mapped drive still
resolves the content
normally'. The problem is with trying to locate the
folder by simply using
the more familiar browse function.
From a security/stability viewpoint, nobody except the
folder owner should
have full control over their home directory...at least
that makes sense
normally. A problem does arise when a company admin
policy has very relaxed
file sharing and control rules (Group Policies), but
that's another issue.
Larry
"Rob" wrote in message
news:560CA1F2-C3F5-4FDA-81CE-AE1DADAFD803@microsoft.com...
> That opens a windows with the location of the
"Documents" folder. And I
> cannot find a customize tab. The only place I
find customize is under the
> Organize/properties. And that does not let me
change the location. I can
> highlight it but I cannot type over it or delete
it.
>
> Is there something I'm missing?
>
> "PaulB" wrote:
>
>> Go to the Start Orb and type shell:personal
into start search. Then check
>> for
>> the customize tab.
>> --
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> "Rob" wrote:
>>
>> > I changed the location of my Documents
folder when I setup the machine.
>> >
>> > But I don't like where it ended you, so
I want to move it again.
>> >
>> > But it won't let me edit the location
again, and there is no "move"
>> > button
>> > now.
>> >
>> > What happened?
>> >
>> > It is Vista Business and joined a SBS
domain.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
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From: Sgh
<sgh@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Documents folder disapeared
Date:
09/23/2007 17:54:10
I did a similar thing, i.e., dragged my accessories
folder out of the menu
onto the desktop. Everything got sprinkled all over
the place. I finally
resorted to doing a system restore to a time prior to
my bad move. Do read a
lot before doing a system restore. You should know
what it will and will not
do to your current status. Nicely, it does not alter
documents you have been
working on. I'm finding out a ton of stuff from a book
called Windows Vista
Solutions , HOW TO LOVE YOUR VISTA, from PC magazine,
by Mark Justice
Hinton. Found it on Amazon: it's worth its weight in
gold.
Sgh [shuddering neophyte]
"lawdude10" wrote:
> I just set up my new Vista laptop, and I am less
than impressed. after having
> to change the IRPStack size on the other
computers in my home network to
> allow printer and file sharing (who has ever
heard of that issue?) I've
> encountered a new problem that has stumped me and
the IT guys at my place of
> employ.
>
> It all started when I first turned on the laptop.
I attemtped to Drag and
> Drop the Documents folder from my user folder
onto my Desktop. I did it
> without even thinking - I know, I should have
just created a shortcut.
>
> That's when then fun started.
>
> Once I realized that I didn't want to move the
folder, I attempted to move
> it back - a simple process in previous windows
editions. However, this time,
> it didn't work. The folder went back into the
User folder, but it started
> creating a proliferation of Documents folders.
I'm not sure why, but a
> Documents folder appeared inside the documents
folder, and another one inside
> of that. It went about seven levels deep at the
worst point. Once I deleted
> out these additional folded inside of the documents
folder, I attempted to
> import my personal data from my external hard
drive. This created another
> proliferation of Documents folders. My folder
string looked something like
>
C:\\UserName\Documents\Documents\Documents\Documents\Personal Folders.
>
> This has happened a couple of times. I'll move my
personal folders back
> into the main documents folder, and it'll stay
that way for a couple of days
> before the documents folders proliferate again. I
haven't lost anything yet,
> but this is getting annoying.
>
> But wait, it gets worse. Somewhere in there the
documents link on my start
> menu broke. I don't know how it did, but it
broke. It is a completely dead
> link. I can't figure out how to resurrect it.
>
> So how can I get the documents folder to stop
proliferating? And how can I
> repair the Documents link on the Start Menu?
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From: lawdude10
<lawdude10@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Documents folder disapeared
Date:
09/24/2007 00:58:00
In the end, I would up doing something similar, if not
more drastic. I
completely reinstalled vista. In so doing, it
obviously fixed the problem,
but it is a lot of work just to what shouldn't even be
a problem. I've since
discovered that Vista will automatically repair if you
somehow delete or move
the Documents folder. The only problem is that this
new feature doesn't work
well - it is VERY buggy, and led to all my problems.
Oh well. THe problem
is fixed now, but if I didn't know computers
semi-well, then I would have
been out of luck.
"Sgh" wrote:
> I did a similar thing, i.e., dragged my
accessories folder out of the menu
> onto the desktop. Everything got sprinkled all
over the place. I finally
> resorted to doing a system restore to a time
prior to my bad move. Do read a
> lot before doing a system restore. You should
know what it will and will not
> do to your current status. Nicely, it does not
alter documents you have been
> working on. I'm finding out a ton of stuff from a
book called Windows Vista
> Solutions , HOW TO LOVE YOUR VISTA, from PC
magazine, by Mark Justice
> Hinton. Found it on Amazon: it's worth its weight
in gold.
>
> Sgh [shuddering neophyte]
>
> "lawdude10" wrote:
>
> > I just set up my new Vista laptop, and I am
less than impressed. after having
> > to change the IRPStack size on the other
computers in my home network to
> > allow printer and file sharing (who has ever
heard of that issue?) I've
> > encountered a new problem that has stumped
me and the IT guys at my place of
> > employ.
> >
> > It all started when I first turned on the
laptop. I attemtped to Drag and
> > Drop the Documents folder from my user
folder onto my Desktop. I did it
> > without even thinking - I know, I should
have just created a shortcut.
> >
> > That's when then fun started.
> >
> > Once I realized that I didn't want to move
the folder, I attempted to move
> > it back - a simple process in previous
windows editions. However, this time,
> > it didn't work. The folder went back into
the User folder, but it started
> > creating a proliferation of Documents
folders. I'm not sure why, but a
> > Documents folder appeared inside the
documents folder, and another one inside
> > of that. It went about seven levels deep at
the worst point. Once I deleted
> > out these additional folded inside of the
documents folder, I attempted to
> > import my personal data from my external
hard drive. This created another
> > proliferation of Documents folders. My
folder string looked something like
> >
C:\\UserName\Documents\Documents\Documents\Documents\Personal Folders.
> >
> > This has happened a couple of times. I'll
move my personal folders back
> > into the main documents folder, and it'll
stay that way for a couple of days
> > before the documents folders proliferate
again. I haven't lost anything yet,
> > but this is getting annoying.
> >
> > But wait, it gets worse. Somewhere in there
the documents link on my start
> > menu broke. I don't know how it did, but it
broke. It is a completely dead
> > link. I can't figure out how to resurrect
it.
> >
> > So how can I get the documents folder to
stop proliferating? And how can I
> > repair the Documents link on the Start Menu?
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From: R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Displaying file lists
Date:
09/17/2007 11:32:20
Hi, Brian.
As Paul said, you can customize your choice of columns
to be displayed.
But you probably need to click View | Customize this
Folder. Then, on the
Customize tab, in the top drop-down box, select
Documents, rather than
Music. And you might want to check the box to apply
this template to
subfolders, too.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
"brian" wrote in message
news:061AEA76-440E-49CC-9117-19EBECC79E63@microsoft.com...
> When I go to C/Local Disk the display reads as a
list of music files with
> Name- Artist - Album-Genre etc - I cannot get it
to display as a list of
> files as normally expected.
> OS vista Business - also have iTunes - is this
the cause?
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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP
<rv@invalid.org>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: deletion of old files in office 2007
Date:
09/21/2007 23:24:14
Do you mean the number of "Recent
Documents"?
Click the Office Button (Top/left of window). Click
Word Options, click the
Advanced Button. Scroll down to the Display section.
In the "Show this numbe
rof Recent Documents" option, set the number to 0
and click OK. This will
clear the list. You can go back and reset the option
to whatever number you
wish.
You'll notice that there is a Pushpin Icon to the
right of each recent
document. If you click this push pin, that document
will be permanently
pinned to that menu until you click the pushpin again
to release it.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
"I have no clue" wrote
in message
news:B310A8E6-40B2-4EF8-B708-809C2A520E08@microsoft.com...
> How do I delete old documents in Office 2007? In
the old microsoft works
> it
> was so simple.
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From: brink
<brink.2xjxkc@no-mx.forums.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Deleting shadow copies ?
Date:
09/26/2007 23:18:41
Blue Max;463463 Wrote:
> We are trying to shrink a partition on a brand
new computer with 1TB of
> space (2 x 500GB RAID-0). The hard disks came
partitioned as only one
> drive
> (C:). However, when we attempt to shrink the
drive it will only let us
> shrink the drive to about 400GB, even though the
disk is barely used
> (only
> 20 GB used). The 'Disk Management' help ndicates
that this can be due
> to
> the fact that the unmovable Windows Vista page
file is limiting how
> much we
> can shrink the partition. To overcome this
problem the help suggests we
> move the page file to another disk, delete the
stored shadow copies,
> and
> move the page file back to the original drive.
>
> Unfortunately, there are no detailed instructions
on how to accomplish
> these
> tasks. We have found that the 'Advanced System
Settings' in the
> computer
> 'Properties' dialog, appears to have options for
allowing us to move
> the
> page files to another disk, but how do we
manually identify and delete
> any
> stored shadow copies?
>
>
> For your convenience here is a quote of the help
section:
>
> Additional considerations
>
> When you shrink a partition, unmovable files (for
example, the page
> file or
> the shadow copy storage area) are not
automatically relocated and you
> can
> not decrease the allocated space beyond the point
where the unmovable
> files
> are located. If you need to shrink the partition
further, move the page
> file
> to another disk, delete the stored shadow copies,
shrink the volume,
> and
> then move the page file back to the disk.
Hi Blue Max,
This tutorial will show you how to adjust the shadow
copy (System
Restore) allocated size.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76227-system-restore-disk-space.html
Shawn
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From: JerryM <jerrym526@msn.org>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Deleting shadow copies ?
Date:
09/28/2007 11:00:18
Hi, Blue Max,
The first thing to do is a disk cleanup,
Double click Computer,
Right click your hard drive and Properties,
Select disk cleanup,
Click Files from all users on this computer,
Click the More Options tab,
Under System Restore and Shadow Copies,
Click Cleanup.
Come back for More,
Jerry
"Blue Max" wrote in message
news:0B75388F-3088-4F5F-9767-537D27D70A4A@microsoft.com...
> We are trying to shrink a partition on a brand
new computer with 1TB of
> space (2 x 500GB RAID-0). The hard disks came
partitioned as only one
> drive (C:). However, when we attempt to shrink
the drive it will only let
> us shrink the drive to about 400GB, even though
the disk is barely used
> (only 20 GB used). The 'Disk Management' help
ndicates that this can be
> due to the fact that the unmovable Windows Vista
page file is limiting how
> much we can shrink the partition. To overcome
this problem the help
> suggests we move the page file to another disk,
delete the stored shadow
> copies, and move the page file back to the
original drive.
>
> Unfortunately, there are no detailed instructions
on how to accomplish
> these tasks. We have found that the 'Advanced
System Settings' in the
> computer 'Properties' dialog, appears to have
options for allowing us to
> move the page files to another disk, but how do
we manually identify and
> delete any stored shadow copies?
>
>
> For your convenience here is a quote of the help
section:
>
> Additional considerations
>
> When you shrink a partition, unmovable files (for
example, the page file
> or the shadow copy storage area) are not
automatically relocated and you
> can not decrease the allocated space beyond the
point where the unmovable
> files are located. If you need to shrink the
partition further, move the
> page file to another disk, delete the stored
shadow copies, shrink the
> volume, and then move the page file back to the
disk.
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From: Hank Arnold (MVP)
<rasilon@aol.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Defrag settings & progress invisible?
Date:
09/17/2007 04:56:14
MPS wrote:
> Following a recent new install I decided to
defrag now.
>
> In other OS I used to have a simple box with some
choice of settings -
> do you want this or that and repeatedly etc.?
>
> Also one would have a large window showing the
movemnet of data and
> clusters around the disk and one could see if the
defrag would hang and
> estimate how many more hours ;-((
>
> Quite useful.
>
> Is it true that my current VISTA Home Premium
does NOT show anything but
> a Defrag START button?
>
> I do not even see which of my 2 each 320 GB discs
are being defragged...
>
> Am I overseeing something?
>
> Are there any reliable tools out there that will
do the job the
> oldfashioned way?
>
> Looking forward,
>
> Maria
Two that I can think of:
Diskeeper
Perfect Disk
--
Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
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From: MPS
<maria.steyn@nospamorange.nl>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Defrag settings & progress invisible?
Date:
09/17/2007 08:19:54
Thanks Hank --
am I right to assume from your suggestion these apps
are compatible as well as harmless/safe to use
with VISTA?
I'd hate to mess up 740 Gigs of Data.
Ciao, Maria
"Hank Arnold (MVP)" schreef in bericht
news:%23uF5$DR%23HHA.3800@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> MPS wrote:
>> Following a recent new install I decided to
defrag now.
>>
>> In other OS I used to have a simple box with
some choice of settings - do you want this or that
>> and repeatedly etc.?
>>
>> Also one would have a large window showing
the movemnet of data and clusters around the disk and
>> one could see if the defrag would hang and
estimate how many more hours ;-((
>>
>> Quite useful.
>>
>> Is it true that my current VISTA Home Premium
does NOT show anything but a Defrag START button?
>>
>> I do not even see which of my 2 each 320 GB
discs are being defragged...
>>
>> Am I overseeing something?
>>
>> Are there any reliable tools out there that
will do the job the oldfashioned way?
>>
>> Looking forward,
>>
>> Maria
>
> Two that I can think of:
>
> Diskeeper
> Perfect Disk
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Server - Directory Services
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From: Hank Arnold (MVP)
<rasilon@aol.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Defrag settings & progress invisible?
Date:
09/18/2007 05:52:07
They certainly are compatible. I've used both on Vista
Home Premium
(Diskeeper is my choice) for months now.
I've not heard of a commercial mainstream defrag
program that isn't
safe. Complaints are usually about speed,
effectiveness, price,
interface and such.
Regardless, always have a good, solid backup strategy.
--
Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services
MPS wrote:
> Thanks Hank --
>
> am I right to assume from your suggestion these
apps are compatible as
> well as harmless/safe to use
> with VISTA?
>
> I'd hate to mess up 740 Gigs of Data.
>
> Ciao, Maria
>
>
>
> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" schreef in bericht
> news:%23uF5$DR%23HHA.3800@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> MPS wrote:
>>> Following a recent new install I decided
to defrag now.
>>>
>>> In other OS I used to have a simple box
with some choice of settings
>>> - do you want this or that and repeatedly
etc.?
>>>
>>> Also one would have a large window
showing the movemnet of data and
>>> clusters around the disk and one could
see if the defrag would hang
>>> and estimate how many more hours ;-((
>>>
>>> Quite useful.
>>>
>>> Is it true that my current VISTA Home
Premium does NOT show anything
>>> but a Defrag START button?
>>>
>>> I do not even see which of my 2 each 320
GB discs are being
>>> defragged...
>>>
>>> Am I overseeing something?
>>>
>>> Are there any reliable tools out there
that will do the job the
>>> oldfashioned way?
>>>
>>> Looking forward,
>>>
>>> Maria
>>
>> Two that I can think of:
>>
>> Diskeeper
>> Perfect Disk
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hank Arnold
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Server - Directory Services
>
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From: Benjamin
<Benjamin.2x2hs3@no-mx.forums.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Defrag settings & progress invisible?
Date:
09/17/2007 13:16:12
Yeah, Diskeeper is certified for Vista, and it's
automatic defrag works
great. No need for scheduling with manual defrags.
Diskeeper
automatically takes care of defragmentation of the
drives you specify,
quietly behind the scenes.
--
Benjamin
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From: MPS
<maria.steyn@nospamorange.nl>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Defrag settings & progress invisible?
Date:
09/20/2007 15:58:33
Thanks guys,
I will look into your suggestions and apps right
after... my holiday break!
Ciao,
Maria
"Benjamin" schreef in bericht
news:Benjamin.2x2hs3@no-mx.forums.net...
>
> Yeah, Diskeeper is certified for Vista, and it's
automatic defrag works
> great. No need for scheduling with manual
defrags. Diskeeper
> automatically takes care of defragmentation of
the drives you specify,
> quietly behind the scenes.
>
>
> --
> Benjamin
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From: R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Default Location for opening files
Date:
09/20/2007 21:10:02
Hi, Jackie.
First, Vista uses a different structure from WinXP. It
doesn't use "My
Documents" at all, except as necessary for
compatibility with older
programs, to point them to the new folder in the Vista
structure. Probably
something like C:\Users\\Documents..
Second, in what program and in what way are you
opening the folders? In
Windows Explorer? Or in Word? Or Excel? Or some other
application?
For example, I always download files into my
E:\Download folder and IE7
always remembers that name - until I choose a
different folder, and then it
remembers the new folder name until I change it back.
Which application is
giving you problems?
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
"JackieH" wrote in message
news:40FCE3C4-70FC-4AD8-94F8-B73F2D894BEB@microsoft.com...
> Hi, is there a way to have Vista remember the
previous folder that you
> opened? It is defaulting to My Documents instead
of the previous folder
> that
> I was using.
> Thanks!
> --
> Jackie
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From: brink <brink.2xcqj1@no-mx.forums.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Default file tree
Date:
09/23/2007 02:11:29
George;460402 Wrote:
> I inadvertently moved some folders in the tree
and need to see what the
> default tree looks like. Running Vista Premium. I
think what moved was
> "local" but not sure if only that
folder and/or others.
> Any guidance will be appreciated.
> Thanks
> George
Hi George,
I have Home Premium as well. See the attached
screenshot of the default
folder tree. "Local" folder should be under
"C:\Users\(your
username)\AppData".
1270
Hope this helps,
Shawn
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From: George <karrers@earthlink.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Default file tree
Date:
09/23/2007 12:03:46
Attachment
N1: Capture
Tree.JPG
Good morning Shawn
Thanks for your response... however the jpg only went
down the tree as far
as recycle bin. I am attaching a pic of mine, see if
you notice anything
amiss.
Thanks
George
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From: brink
<brink.2xdsq2@no-mx.forums.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Default file tree
Date:
09/23/2007 15:48:02
George;460836 Wrote:
> Good morning Shawn
> Thanks for your response... however the jpg only
went down the tree as
> far
> as recycle bin. I am attaching a pic of mine, see
if you notice
> anything
> amiss.
> Thanks
> George
George,
I do not see your attachment. The Recycle Bin is as
far as the folder
tree goes on mine.
Shawn
--
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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP
<rv@invalid.org>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Default file tree
Date:
09/24/2007 00:59:21
George
Open Windows Explorer, go to C:\Users, expand the
Users folder. Expand the
Default folder (Not default user). This folder should
show you where the
locations of all the default folders are placed.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
"George" wrote in message
news:%23c6bhtY$HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I inadvertently moved some folders in the tree and
need to see what the
>default tree looks like. Running Vista Premium. I
think what moved was
>"local" but not sure if only that folder
and/or others.
> Any guidance will be appreciated.
> Thanks
> George
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From: Ciron <ciron383@gmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Date Created changes in copy
Date:
09/20/2007 20:12:03
I John,
when you copy, you are creating something new so the
creation date is always
modified.
Despite having the same content, a copy was creat
today from a yesterday
file that continues to exist BUT, if you move your
files instead of copy
them you will preserve the creation date.
"John" escreveu na mensagem
news:D7WdnT1GJqisG2_bnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@centurytel.net...
>I am copying files from my old Win/ME disk to my
Vista NTFS disk. When it
>was done I found every file had today's date on
the Vista side of the copy.
>I am displaying Date Created on both sides.
>
> How can I preserve the creation dates when I copy
from the old disk?
>
> John
>
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From: John <John@TheStewartWeb.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Date Created changes in copy
Date:
09/20/2007 22:24:14
I just copied Program Files to a new folder called
NEWPF on the main Vista
disk. You said, "When you copy, you are creating
something new so the
creation date is always modified." But this copy
didn't modify the creation
date. It preserved it in the copy. This was not a
move.
In my original post, I did a copy between my old WinME
disk and my NTFS
Vista disk. My problem was that it changed the date to
today's date. It
was from a FAT32 disk to a NTFS disk; one was created
by Win/ME, the other
by Vista. In my test copy within my main local disk,
the copy didn't change
the date to today's date. I did a copy, not a move, in
this local copy
test.
Hope this explains the problem clearer.
John
"Ciron" wrote in message
news:4457FA9D-B524-4D79-B391-0F56A86D78A1@microsoft.com...
>I John,
> when you copy, you are creating something new so
the creation date is
> always modified.
> Despite having the same content, a copy was creat
today from a yesterday
> file that continues to exist BUT, if you move
your files instead of copy
> them you will preserve the creation date.
>
>
> "John" escreveu na mensagem
>
news:D7WdnT1GJqisG2_bnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@centurytel.net...
>>I am copying files from my old Win/ME disk to
my Vista NTFS disk. When it
>>was done I found every file had today's date
on the Vista side of the
>>copy. I am displaying Date Created on both
sides.
>>
>> How can I preserve the creation dates when I
copy from the old disk?
>>
>> John
>>
>
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From: brink
<brink.2x0n43@no-mx.forums.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Could not find this item
Date:
09/16/2007 13:29:25
Tim;453440 Wrote:
> I'm trying to delete a folder that contained a
wmv file... I deleted the
> file and the folder's empty but when I try to
remove the folder I get
> the
> following error:
>
> "Could not find this item... This is no
longer located in C:\users....
> Verify the item's location and try again."
>
> The folder shows up in search and of course it
appears where it was
> originally placed... I did a reboot and chkdsk...
>
> Any way to get rid of the folder ??
>
> Thanks,
Hi Tim,
You can try to take ownership of the folder first,
then try to delete
it. This tutorial will show you how.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html
Shawn
--
brink
*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do
not ask them.*
_http://www.Vistax64.com
(\"http://www.Vistax64.com\")_
*Please post feedback to help others.*
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From: Tim <mtguy26505@yahoo.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Could not find this item
Date:
09/16/2007 14:44:17
Thanks but no joy... the command line option just
fails and through
explorer, the security tab on the properties dialog
says with a nice red X:
"The requested security information is either
unavailable or can't be
displayed."
"brink" wrote in message
news:brink.2x0n43@no-mx.forums.net...
>
> Tim;453440 Wrote:
>> I'm trying to delete a folder that contained
a wmv file... I deleted the
>> file and the folder's empty but when I try to
remove the folder I get
>> the
>> following error:
>>
>> "Could not find this item... This is no
longer located in C:\users....
>> Verify the item's location and try
again."
>>
>> The folder shows up in search and of course
it appears where it was
>> originally placed... I did a reboot and
chkdsk...
>>
>> Any way to get rid of the folder ??
>>
>> Thanks,
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> You can try to take ownership of the folder
first, then try to delete
> it. This tutorial will show you how.
>
>
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html
>
> Shawn
>
>
> --
> brink
>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people
that do not ask them.*
> _http://www.Vistax64.com
(\"http://www.Vistax64.com\")_
> *Please post feedback to help others.*
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From: R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Could not find this item
Date:
09/17/2007 09:45:51
Hi, Tim.
> Thanks but no joy... the command line option just
fails
You DID run the Command Prompt *as Administrator*,
didn't you? See Brink's
instruction 3 on that page.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
"Tim" wrote in message
news:20A8CBF7-0DE2-41BE-AF28-2AA9AB1B54E9@microsoft.com...
> Thanks but no joy... the command line option just
fails and through
> explorer, the security tab on the properties
dialog says with a nice red
> X:
>
> "The requested security information is
either unavailable or can't be
> displayed."
>
> "brink" wrote in message
> news:brink.2x0n43@no-mx.forums.net...
>>
>> Tim;453440 Wrote:
>>> I'm trying to delete a folder that
contained a wmv file... I deleted the
>>> file and the folder's empty but when I
try to remove the folder I get
>>> the
>>> following error:
>>>
>>> "Could not find this item... This is
no longer located in C:\users....
>>> Verify the item's location and try
again."
>>>
>>> The folder shows up in search and of
course it appears where it was
>>> originally placed... I did a reboot and
chkdsk...
>>>
>>> Any way to get rid of the folder ??
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> You can try to take ownership of the folder
first, then try to delete
>> it. This tutorial will show you how.
>>
>>
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>>
>> --
>> brink
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From: Tim <mtguy26505@yahoo.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Could not find this item
Date:
09/17/2007 15:08:44
Thanks... yes and the command line comes back with the
error: "invalid or
cannot find"... it's like it's not there...
except that it is
"R. C. White" wrote in message
news:1DC440D7-379B-4541-9493-7E2796E649AB@microsoft.com...
> Hi, Tim.
>
>> Thanks but no joy... the command line option
just fails
>
> You DID run the Command Prompt *as
Administrator*, didn't you? See
> Brink's instruction 3 on that page.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate
x64)
>
> "Tim" wrote in message
>
news:20A8CBF7-0DE2-41BE-AF28-2AA9AB1B54E9@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks but no joy... the command line option
just fails and through
>> explorer, the security tab on the properties
dialog says with a nice red
>> X:
>>
>> "The requested security information is
either unavailable or can't be
>> displayed."
>>
>> "brink" wrote in message
>> news:brink.2x0n43@no-mx.forums.net...
>>>
>>> Tim;453440 Wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to delete a folder that
contained a wmv file... I deleted
>>>> the
>>>> file and the folder's empty but when
I try to remove the folder I get
>>>> the
>>>> following error:
>>>>
>>>> "Could not find this item...
This is no longer located in C:\users....
>>>> Verify the item's location and try
again."
>>>>
>>>> The folder shows up in search and of
course it appears where it was
>>>> originally placed... I did a reboot
and chkdsk...
>>>>
>>>> Any way to get rid of the folder ??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>> You can try to take ownership of the
folder first, then try to delete
>>> it. This tutorial will show you how.
>>>
>>>
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html
>>>
>>> Shawn
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> brink
>
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From: R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Could not find this item
Date:
09/17/2007 17:11:12
Hi, Tim.
Then it may be time to bring out the super-finder:
Dir!
In the Administrator:Command Prompt:
dir c:\*.wmv /s/a
If it's a big drive with lots of files, you may have
time for a cup of
coffee, but if it's there, this should find it.
And, once you know the name of the folder, browse to
its parent and use
Remove Directory (rmdir or just rd) with the /s switch
to remove the entire
directory tree, including all subfolders and files:
rd /s
It will ask if you're sure; say yes. Should only take
a second.
Let us know what happens. It ALWAYS works - sometimes.
;^}
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
"Tim" wrote in message
news:D4474B21-E515-4111-A523-E68A954EBA9C@microsoft.com...
> Thanks... yes and the command line comes back
with the error: "invalid or
> cannot find"... it's like it's not there...
except that it is
>
> "R. C. White" wrote in message
>
news:1DC440D7-379B-4541-9493-7E2796E649AB@microsoft.com...
>> Hi, Tim.
>>
>>> Thanks but no joy... the command line
option just fails
>>
>> You DID run the Command Prompt *as
Administrator*, didn't you? See
>> Brink's instruction 3 on that page.
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "Tim" wrote in message
>>
news:20A8CBF7-0DE2-41BE-AF28-2AA9AB1B54E9@microsoft.com...
>>> Thanks but no joy... the command line
option just fails and through
>>> explorer, the security tab on the
properties dialog says with a nice red
>>> X:
>>>
>>> "The requested security information
is either unavailable or can't be
>>> displayed."
>>>
>>> "brink" wrote in message
>>> news:brink.2x0n43@no-mx.forums.net...
>>>>
>>>> Tim;453440 Wrote:
>>>>> I'm trying to delete a folder
that contained a wmv file... I deleted
>>>>> the
>>>>> file and the folder's empty but
when I try to remove the folder I get
>>>>> the
>>>>> following error:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Could not find this item...
This is no longer located in C:\users....
>>>>> Verify the item's location and
try again."
>>>>>
>>>>> The folder shows up in search and
of course it appears where it was
>>>>> originally placed... I did a
reboot and chkdsk...
>>>>>
>>>>> Any way to get rid of the folder
??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>
>>>> You can try to take ownership of the
folder first, then try to delete
>>>> it. This tutorial will show you how.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html
>>>>
>>>> Shawn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> brink
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From: Tim <mtguy26505@yahoo.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Could not find this item
Date:
09/17/2007 22:00:14
well this is just bizarre... the folder shows up with
the dir command but it
WILL not allow me to remove it... so i tried putting a
few files in there
and it created a NEW directory with the same file
name... so then there were
two...both empty... i deleted the one of them and now
the folder's
displaying with the files i copied into it... which of
course... cannot be
deleted... same errors... it's not there... back in
the old days i used
norton to fix crap like this directly on the disk...
any other ideas ??
thanks for sticking with this one...
"R. C. White" wrote in message
news:849EB562-E72A-4E27-ADF9-D511CD509E74@microsoft.com...
> Hi, Tim.
>
> Then it may be time to bring out the super-finder:
Dir!
>
> In the Administrator:Command Prompt:
> dir c:\*.wmv /s/a
>
> If it's a big drive with lots of files, you may
have time for a cup of
> coffee, but if it's there, this should find it.
>
> And, once you know the name of the folder, browse
to its parent and use
> Remove Directory (rmdir or just rd) with the /s
switch to remove the
> entire directory tree, including all subfolders
and files:
> rd /s
>
> It will ask if you're sure; say yes. Should only
take a second.
>
> Let us know what happens. It ALWAYS works -
sometimes. ;^}
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate
x64)
>
> "Tim" wrote in message
>
news:D4474B21-E515-4111-A523-E68A954EBA9C@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks... yes and the command line comes back
with the error: "invalid or
>> cannot find"... it's like it's not
there... except that it is
>>
>> "R. C. White" wrote in message
>>
news:1DC440D7-379B-4541-9493-7E2796E649AB@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi, Tim.
>>>
>>>> Thanks but no joy... the command line
option just fails
>>>
>>> You DID run the Command Prompt *as
Administrator*, didn't you? See
>>> Brink's instruction 3 on that page.
>>>
>>> RC
>>>
>>> "Tim" wrote in message
>>>
news:20A8CBF7-0DE2-41BE-AF28-2AA9AB1B54E9@microsoft.com...
>>>> Thanks but no joy... the command line
option just fails and through
>>>> explorer, the security tab on the
properties dialog says with a nice
>>>> red X:
>>>>
>>>> "The requested security
information is either unavailable or can't be
>>>> displayed."
>>>>
>>>> "brink" wrote in message
>>>> news:brink.2x0n43@no-mx.forums.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim;453440 Wrote:
>>>>>> I'm trying to delete a folder
that contained a wmv file... I deleted
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> file and the folder's empty
but when I try to remove the folder I get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> following error:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Could not find this
item... This is no longer located in
>>>>>> C:\users....
>>>>>> Verify the item's location
and try again."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The folder shows up in search
and of course it appears where it was
>>>>>> originally placed... I did a
reboot and chkdsk...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any way to get rid of the
folder ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> You can try to take ownership of
the folder first, then try to delete
>>>>> it. This tutorial will show you
how.
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> brink
>
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From: brink
<brink.2x37h0@no-mx.forums.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Could not find this item
Date:
09/17/2007 22:32:24
Tim;455123 Wrote:
> well this is just bizarre... the folder shows up
with the dir command
> but it
> WILL not allow me to remove it... so i tried
putting a few files in
> there
> and it created a NEW directory with the same file
name... so then there
> were
> two...both empty... i deleted the one of them and
now the folder's
> displaying with the files i copied into it...
which of course... cannot
> be
> deleted... same errors... it's not there... back
in the old days i used
> norton to fix crap like this directly on the
disk... any other ideas ??
>
> thanks for sticking with this one...
>
>
dean-dean;454904 Wrote:
>
> In Windows Media Player > Tools > Options,
on the Rip Music tab, is
> that
> folder the location given for "Rip music to
this location"? If so, can
> you
> change the location?
>
Tim,
Have you checked into Dean Dean's idea?
Shawn
--
brink
*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do
not ask them.*
WWW.VISTAX64.COM
(\"HTTP://WWW.VISTAX64.COM\")
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From: dean-dean
<dean-dean@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Could not find this item
Date:
09/17/2007 17:28:02
In Windows Media Player > Tools > Options, on
the Rip Music tab, is that
folder the location given for "Rip music to this
location"? If so, can you
change the location?
"Tim" wrote in message
news:D4474B21-E515-4111-A523-E68A954EBA9C@microsoft.com...
> Thanks... yes and the command line comes back
with the error: "invalid or
> cannot find"... it's like it's not there...
except that it is
>
> "R. C. White" wrote in message
>
news:1DC440D7-379B-4541-9493-7E2796E649AB@microsoft.com...
>> Hi, Tim.
>>
>>> Thanks but no joy... the command line
option just fails
>>
>> You DID run the Command Prompt *as
Administrator*, didn't you? See
>> Brink's instruction 3 on that page.
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San
Marcos, TX
>> rc@grandecom.net
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista
Ultimate x64)
>>
>> "Tim" wrote in message
>>
news:20A8CBF7-0DE2-41BE-AF28-2AA9AB1B54E9@microsoft.com...
>>> Thanks but no joy... the command line
option just fails and through
>>> explorer, the security tab on the
properties dialog says with a nice red
>>> X:
>>>
>>> "The requested security information
is either unavailable or can't be
>>> displayed."
>>>
>>> "brink" wrote in message
>>> news:brink.2x0n43@no-mx.forums.net...
>>>>
>>>> Tim;453440 Wrote:
>>>>> I'm trying to delete a folder
that contained a wmv file... I deleted
>>>>> the
>>>>> file and the folder's empty but
when I try to remove the folder I get
>>>>> the
>>>>> following error:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Could not find this item...
This is no longer located in C:\users....
>>>>> Verify the item's location and
try again."
>>>>>
>>>>> The folder shows up in search and
of course it appears where it was
>>>>> originally placed... I did a
reboot and chkdsk...
>>>>>
>>>>> Any way to get rid of the folder
??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>
>>>> You can try to take ownership of the
folder first, then try to delete
>>>> it. This tutorial will show you how.
>>>>
>>>>
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html
>>>>
>>>> Shawn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> brink
>>
>
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From: Tim <mtguy26505@yahoo.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Could not find this item
Date:
09/18/2007 11:48:09
Sorry, yes I checked... the folder I can't get rid of
is NOT the rip to
folder in media player...
"dean-dean" wrote in message
news:9475F3B4-0642-41FA-B116-20B57970F5BE@microsoft.com...
> In Windows Media Player > Tools > Options,
on the Rip Music tab, is that
> folder the location given for "Rip music to
this location"? If so, can
> you change the location?
>
> "Tim" wrote in message
>
news:D4474B21-E515-4111-A523-E68A954EBA9C@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks... yes and the command line comes back
with the error: "invalid or
>> cannot find"... it's like it's not
there... except that it is
>>
>> "R. C. White" wrote in message
>>
news:1DC440D7-379B-4541-9493-7E2796E649AB@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi, Tim.
>>>
>>>> Thanks but no joy... the command line
option just fails
>>>
>>> You DID run the Command Prompt *as
Administrator*, didn't you? See
>>> Brink's instruction 3 on that page.
>>>
>>> RC
>>> --
>>> R. C. White, CPA
>>> San
Marcos, TX
>>> rc@grandecom.net
>>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>>> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista
Ultimate x64)
>>>
>>> "Tim" wrote in message
>>>
news:20A8CBF7-0DE2-41BE-AF28-2AA9AB1B54E9@microsoft.com...
>>>> Thanks but no joy... the command line
option just fails and through
>>>> explorer, the security tab on the
properties dialog says with a nice
>>>> red X:
>>>>
>>>> "The requested security
information is either unavailable or can't be
>>>> displayed."
>>>>
>>>> "brink" wrote in message
>>>> news:brink.2x0n43@no-mx.forums.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim;453440 Wrote:
>>>>>> I'm trying to delete a folder
that contained a wmv file... I deleted
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> file and the folder's empty
but when I try to remove the folder I get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> following error:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Could not find this
item... This is no longer located in
>>>>>> C:\users....
>>>>>> Verify the item's location
and try again."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The folder shows up in search
and of course it appears where it was
>>>>>> originally placed... I did a
reboot and chkdsk...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any way to get rid of the
folder ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> You can try to take ownership of
the folder first, then try to delete
>>>>> it. This tutorial will show you
how.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> brink
>>>
>>
>
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From: R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Correcting file associations in Vista
Date:
09/17/2007 11:26:06
Hi, Wally.
Oh, yes! MVP Ramesh's site is excellent! Highly
recommended.
But did you try Vista's Help and Support file? Just
click the Orb (also
known as the Start Button, since that's what was in
Win95-WinXP). Then
click Help and Support. If you don't see what you need
on the menu, just
type it into the Search box up above.
Searching for "file association" - with NO
quotation marks - gets me 30
hits. The fist one is "Change the program that
opens a type of file"; maybe
that's what you were looking for.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
"Wally Cleaver" wrote in message
news:C331A10A-FF3D-4AB0-B366-FC6E76983C23@microsoft.com...
> I have Windows Vista Home Basic and as I'm a
computer novice I originally
> bought several weighty bestselling tomes (Vista
for...) and pc fix mags
> thinking I'd be set up with all proper apps for
running and
> troubleshooting
> Vista. Turns out lots of these sources just plain
wrong on Vista
> compatible
> utilities and don't even mention appropriate
utilities. E.g. my computer
> manufacturer's software update program kept on
showing file errors when I
> would click "repair" in control panel
programs. I then looked up the file
> and with one accidental click made all files with
one particular extension
> open using notepad. (I noticed this has already
happened to others in
> this
> forum i.e. "my big mistake".) So search
books, mag, web, nothing but one
> utility charging good dollar for fix and some
unreputable app web forum.
> Finally, in this Vista forum, I find near the end
a link to
> http://winhelponline.com/articles/231/1/ for an
Utility to unassociate
> file
> types in Windows Vista. one, two, three, simple
to use. Unbelievable. No
> write ups about this essential fix that I've
noticed in the media but so
> basic and required. Then I realize the whole
winhelponline.com site is
> loaded with utilities for fixes on issues in
Vista that I've been thinking
> how to solve for the longest time. UNBELIEVABLE!
and I spent hours
> searching. So if you somehow need troubleshooting
Vista files, set-up,
> and
> come accross this post, save yourself the hours I
spent searching for
> fixes,
> go to winhelponline.com, honestly. It's run by a
Microsoft MVP and I just
> wish I could have come across it sooner, instead
of looking up what all
> the
> "known" apps and utilities advertise as
providing. Hope someone at least
> reads this and finds their Vista fix at
winhelponline.com. This site
> really
> should get more exposure at Microsoft.
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From: Wally Cleaver
<WallyCleaver@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Correcting file associations in Vista
Date:
09/17/2007 23:52:02
Hello R.C. White. Weirdest thing, my first Vista post,
and my internet
service provider goes down for long time and knocks
e-mail notifications off.
Anyway, thanks for advice. Did originally just do what
you indeed
recommended. The problem of course is that for some
files extensions, .dll,
as in a post some time back in this forum before
Ramesh's utility came out
when there was no easy solution, is that for these
files, the default is
"unknown application" and there is no way to
restore that default through the
start -help- control panel. I wish it were that easy.
The problem for
computer novices is that with one wayward click on
Vista that you do not even
notice (i.e. "please make all files on the system
open in this program"), in
trying to figure out in notepad exactly what is wrong,
you can make changes
throughout system (should have "opened
with"). Seems this is a big
difference with my friends who have XPs. They somehow
end up with a corrupt
activex in download program files, one right-click,
delete, gone. In Vista
I've had a corrupt flash active -x in my download
program files since the
second day I bought this computer and cannot get rid
of it (used Flash
uninstaller, disk cleanup). In XP right-click gone.
I'll work on this and
can see the logic behind it in Vista (reg. key holding
it back). Any way, my
second post and thanks for reply. P.S. speaking of
Ramesh's site and
Windows Help, that guy's got a utility on there to fix
the reg. if the script
on your Windows Help screen is goofed. I had exactly
this problem. Ran it.
All Clear. 2 utilities for Ramesh! And thank you R.C.
"R. C. White" wrote:
> Hi, Wally.
>
> Oh, yes! MVP Ramesh's site is excellent! Highly
recommended.
>
> But did you try Vista's Help and Support file?
Just click the Orb (also
> known as the Start Button, since that's what was
in Win95-WinXP). Then
> click Help and Support. If you don't see what you
need on the menu, just
> type it into the Search box up above.
>
> Searching for "file association" - with
NO quotation marks - gets me 30
> hits. The fist one is "Change the program
that opens a type of file"; maybe
> that's what you were looking for.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate
x64)
>
> "Wally Cleaver" wrote in message
>
news:C331A10A-FF3D-4AB0-B366-FC6E76983C23@microsoft.com...
> > I have Windows Vista Home Basic and as I'm a
computer novice I originally
> > bought several weighty bestselling tomes
(Vista for...) and pc fix mags
> > thinking I'd be set up with all proper apps
for running and
> > troubleshooting
> > Vista. Turns out lots of these sources just
plain wrong on Vista
> > compatible
> > utilities and don't even mention appropriate
utilities. E.g. my computer
> > manufacturer's software update program kept
on showing file errors when I
> > would click "repair" in control
panel programs. I then looked up the file
> > and with one accidental click made all files
with one particular extension
> > open using notepad. (I noticed this has
already happened to others in
> > this
> > forum i.e. "my big mistake".) So
search books, mag, web, nothing but one
> > utility charging good dollar for fix and
some unreputable app web forum.
> > Finally, in this Vista forum, I find near
the end a link to
> > http://winhelponline.com/articles/231/1/ for
an Utility to unassociate
> > file
> > types in Windows Vista. one, two, three,
simple to use. Unbelievable. No
> > write ups about this essential fix that I've
noticed in the media but so
> > basic and required. Then I realize the whole
winhelponline.com site is
> > loaded with utilities for fixes on issues in
Vista that I've been thinking
> > how to solve for the longest time.
UNBELIEVABLE! and I spent hours
> > searching. So if you somehow need
troubleshooting Vista files, set-up,
> > and
> > come accross this post, save yourself the
hours I spent searching for
> > fixes,
> > go to winhelponline.com, honestly. It's run
by a Microsoft MVP and I just
> > wish I could have come across it sooner,
instead of looking up what all
> > the
> > "known" apps and utilities
advertise as providing. Hope someone at least
> > reads this and finds their Vista fix at
winhelponline.com. This site
> > really
> > should get more exposure at Microsoft.
>
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From: R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Correcting file associations in Vista
Date:
09/18/2007 09:16:24
Hi, Wally.
That "file association" procedure in Vista
must seem wonderfully clever and
effective to the team who wrote it. But it seems much
less intuitive than
the way we did it in WinXP. And it is SO hard for an
XP veteran to discover
how to do it in Vista! :>(
Let us know how you did it - when you finally get it
squared away. In
newsgroups, we all learn from each other, you know. We
are the newbie one
day, the teacher the next day. ;
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
"Wally Cleaver" wrote in message
news:19D0D0A2-E66D-4933-B301-297148C6D589@microsoft.com...
> Hello R.C. White. Weirdest thing, my first Vista
post, and my internet
> service provider goes down for long time and
knocks e-mail notifications
> off.
> Anyway, thanks for advice. Did originally just do
what you indeed
> recommended. The problem of course is that for
some files extensions,
> .dll,
> as in a post some time back in this forum before
Ramesh's utility came out
> when there was no easy solution, is that for
these files, the default is
> "unknown application" and there is no
way to restore that default through
> the
> start -help- control panel. I wish it were that
easy. The problem for
> computer novices is that with one wayward click
on Vista that you do not
> even
> notice (i.e. "please make all files on the
system open in this program"),
> in
> trying to figure out in notepad exactly what is
wrong, you can make
> changes
> throughout system (should have "opened
with"). Seems this is a big
> difference with my friends who have XPs. They
somehow end up with a
> corrupt
> activex in download program files, one
right-click, delete, gone. In
> Vista
> I've had a corrupt flash active -x in my download
program files since the
> second day I bought this computer and cannot get
rid of it (used Flash
> uninstaller, disk cleanup). In XP right-click
gone. I'll work on this
> and
> can see the logic behind it in Vista (reg. key
holding it back). Any way,
> my
> second post and thanks for reply. P.S. speaking
of Ramesh's site and
> Windows Help, that guy's got a utility on there
to fix the reg. if the
> script
> on your Windows Help screen is goofed. I had
exactly this problem. Ran
> it.
> All Clear. 2 utilities for Ramesh! And thank you
R.C.
>
> "R. C. White" wrote:
>
>> Hi, Wally.
>>
>> Oh, yes! MVP Ramesh's site is excellent!
Highly recommended.
>>
>> But did you try Vista's Help and Support
file? Just click the Orb (also
>> known as the Start Button, since that's what
was in Win95-WinXP). Then
>> click Help and Support. If you don't see what
you need on the menu, just
>> type it into the Search box up above.
>>
>> Searching for "file association" -
with NO quotation marks - gets me 30
>> hits. The fist one is "Change the
program that opens a type of file";
>> maybe
>> that's what you were looking for.
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "Wally Cleaver" wrote in message
>>
news:C331A10A-FF3D-4AB0-B366-FC6E76983C23@microsoft.com...
>> > I have Windows Vista Home Basic and as
I'm a computer novice I
>> > originally
>> > bought several weighty bestselling tomes
(Vista for...) and pc fix mags
>> > thinking I'd be set up with all proper
apps for running and
>> > troubleshooting
>> > Vista. Turns out lots of these sources
just plain wrong on Vista
>> > compatible
>> > utilities and don't even mention
appropriate utilities. E.g. my
>> > computer
>> > manufacturer's software update program
kept on showing file errors when
>> > I
>> > would click "repair" in
control panel programs. I then looked up the
>> > file
>> > and with one accidental click made all
files with one particular
>> > extension
>> > open using notepad. (I noticed this has
already happened to others in
>> > this
>> > forum i.e. "my big mistake".)
So search books, mag, web, nothing but
>> > one
>> > utility charging good dollar for fix and
some unreputable app web
>> > forum.
>> > Finally, in this Vista forum, I find
near the end a link to
>> > http://winhelponline.com/articles/231/1/
for an Utility to unassociate
>> > file
>> > types in Windows Vista. one, two, three,
simple to use. Unbelievable.
>> > No
>> > write ups about this essential fix that
I've noticed in the media but
>> > so
>> > basic and required. Then I realize the
whole winhelponline.com site is
>> > loaded with utilities for fixes on
issues in Vista that I've been
>> > thinking
>> > how to solve for the longest time.
UNBELIEVABLE! and I spent hours
>> > searching. So if you somehow need
troubleshooting Vista files, set-up,
>> > and
>> > come accross this post, save yourself
the hours I spent searching for
>> > fixes,
>> > go to winhelponline.com, honestly. It's
run by a Microsoft MVP and I
>> > just
>> > wish I could have come across it sooner,
instead of looking up what all
>> > the
>> > "known" apps and utilities
advertise as providing. Hope someone at
>> > least
>> > reads this and finds their Vista fix at
winhelponline.com. This site
>> > really
>> > should get more exposure at Microsoft.
Top
From: Wally Cleaver
<WallyCleaver@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Correcting file associations in Vista
Date:
09/18/2007 14:56:06
Hi R.C., thanks for reply. You're right. I think I
read somewhere that the
team at Microsoft responsible for this on Vista
figured that when it came to
these type of files the standard user wouldn't bother
looking into them.
Probably true, but the problem of course with a new
system is that all of the
sudden tons of apps that work perfectly fine in XP
have complications
adjusting to Vista. So iTunes needs vb script
registration to run and a new
comp. user like me all the sudden has to use a command
prompt in Vista on the
second day. Or my HP software update program keeps on
saying 6 .dll errors
in control panel and the recommendation from HP rep.
is recover factory
standards because maybe improperly configured with
Vista. Well if had comp.
for awhile, do you really want to do this with bunch
of new stuff on it? So
inevitably curious George like me tries to figure out
what's wrong and one
click, mistake. I think for standard video, music,
word, files the operating
system should keep the option to make all these files
"open with this
application", because user can always change. But
this option should not be
available for executable files, dlls, or other system
files necessarily (i.e.
make all programs open with this) because run into
problems. (I noticed
someone else in this forum mistakenly made all exe.
files run with an
entirely inappropriate program by virtue of one
click). I don't know. Guess
sometimes you need to be protected from yourself.
Don't know. Anyway,
thanks for recommendation, and I'll post a new thread
with two other problems
I'm working on tomorrow because, as you said, this is
how we all learn,
especially newbies like me. Thanks for feedback.
Wally,
"R. C. White" wrote:
> Hi, Wally.
>
> That "file association" procedure in
Vista must seem wonderfully clever and
> effective to the team who wrote it. But it seems
much less intuitive than
> the way we did it in WinXP. And it is SO hard for
an XP veteran to discover
> how to do it in Vista! :>(
>
> Let us know how you did it - when you finally get
it squared away. In
> newsgroups, we all learn from each other, you
know. We are the newbie one
> day, the teacher the next day. ;>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate
x64)
>
> "Wally Cleaver" wrote in message
>
news:19D0D0A2-E66D-4933-B301-297148C6D589@microsoft.com...
> > Hello R.C. White. Weirdest thing, my first
Vista post, and my internet
> > service provider goes down for long time and
knocks e-mail notifications
> > off.
> > Anyway, thanks for advice. Did originally
just do what you indeed
> > recommended. The problem of course is that
for some files extensions,
> > .dll,
> > as in a post some time back in this forum
before Ramesh's utility came out
> > when there was no easy solution, is that for
these files, the default is
> > "unknown application" and there is
no way to restore that default through
> > the
> > start -help- control panel. I wish it were
that easy. The problem for
> > computer novices is that with one wayward
click on Vista that you do not
> > even
> > notice (i.e. "please make all files on
the system open in this program"),
> > in
> > trying to figure out in notepad exactly what
is wrong, you can make
> > changes
> > throughout system (should have "opened
with"). Seems this is a big
> > difference with my friends who have XPs.
They somehow end up with a
> > corrupt
> > activex in download program files, one
right-click, delete, gone. In
> > Vista
> > I've had a corrupt flash active -x in my
download program files since the
> > second day I bought this computer and cannot
get rid of it (used Flash
> > uninstaller, disk cleanup). In XP right-click
gone. I'll work on this
> > and
> > can see the logic behind it in Vista (reg.
key holding it back). Any way,
> > my
> > second post and thanks for reply. P.S.
speaking of Ramesh's site and
> > Windows Help, that guy's got a utility on
there to fix the reg. if the
> > script
> > on your Windows Help screen is goofed. I had
exactly this problem. Ran
> > it.
> > All Clear. 2 utilities for Ramesh! And thank
you R.C.
> >
> > "R. C. White" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, Wally.
> >>
> >> Oh, yes! MVP Ramesh's site is excellent!
Highly recommended.
> >>
> >> But did you try Vista's Help and Support
file? Just click the Orb (also
> >> known as the Start Button, since that's
what was in Win95-WinXP). Then
> >> click Help and Support. If you don't see
what you need on the menu, just
> >> type it into the Search box up above.
> >>
> >> Searching for "file
association" - with NO quotation marks - gets me 30
> >> hits. The fist one is "Change the
program that opens a type of file";
> >> maybe
> >> that's what you were looking for.
> >>
> >> RC
> >>
> >> "Wally Cleaver" wrote in
message
> >>
news:C331A10A-FF3D-4AB0-B366-FC6E76983C23@microsoft.com...
> >> > I have Windows Vista Home Basic and
as I'm a computer novice I
> >> > originally
> >> > bought several weighty bestselling
tomes (Vista for...) and pc fix mags
> >> > thinking I'd be set up with all
proper apps for running and
> >> > troubleshooting
> >> > Vista. Turns out lots of these
sources just plain wrong on Vista
> >> > compatible
> >> > utilities and don't even mention
appropriate utilities. E.g. my
> >> > computer
> >> > manufacturer's software update
program kept on showing file errors when
> >> > I
> >> > would click "repair" in
control panel programs. I then looked up the
> >> > file
> >> > and with one accidental click made
all files with one particular
> >> > extension
> >> > open using notepad. (I noticed this
has already happened to others in
> >> > this
> >> > forum i.e. "my big
mistake".) So search books, mag, web, nothing but
> >> > one
> >> > utility charging good dollar for
fix and some unreputable app web
> >> > forum.
> >> > Finally, in this Vista forum, I
find near the end a link to
> >> >
http://winhelponline.com/articles/231/1/ for an Utility to unassociate
> >> > file
> >> > types in Windows Vista. one, two,
three, simple to use. Unbelievable.
> >> > No
> >> > write ups about this essential fix
that I've noticed in the media but
> >> > so
> >> > basic and required. Then I realize
the whole winhelponline.com site is
> >> > loaded with utilities for fixes on
issues in Vista that I've been
> >> > thinking
> >> > how to solve for the longest time.
UNBELIEVABLE! and I spent hours
> >> > searching. So if you somehow need
troubleshooting Vista files, set-up,
> >> > and
> >> > come accross this post, save
yourself the hours I spent searching for
> >> > fixes,
> >> > go to winhelponline.com, honestly.
It's run by a Microsoft MVP and I
> >> > just
> >> > wish I could have come across it
sooner, instead of looking up what all
> >> > the
> >> > "known" apps and
utilities advertise as providing. Hope someone at
> >> > least
> >> > reads this and finds their Vista
fix at winhelponline.com. This site
> >> > really
> >> > should get more exposure at
Microsoft.
>
Top
From: brink
<brink.2x0nsz@no-mx.forums.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Consequences of deleting music, video etc folders?
Date:
09/16/2007 13:32:42
joe public;451275 Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to delete the folders that appear in the
user directory -
> music, video etc. I'm the only user of the
computer. I presume you do so
> editing these reg keys:
>
>
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell
> Folders
>
>
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User
> Shell Folders
>
>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Shell
> Folders
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\User
> Shell Folders
>
> What I'm wondering is, are they any unforeseen
bad consequences of
> doing this?
>
> Thanks.
Hi Joe Public,
I would leave the personal user folders alone. They
are tied into a
lot of items in Vista.
Shawn
--
brink
*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do
not ask them.*
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(\"http://www.Vistax64.com\")_
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From: R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Consequences of deleting music, video etc folders?
Date:
09/17/2007 11:39:43
Hi, Joe.
As Shawn said, those are special folders, so I
wouldn't go changing them in
the Registry unless you know more about them than I
do.
But you can right-click on them in Windows Explorer
and set their Properties
to Hidden. Will that accomplish your purpose?
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
"joe public" wrote in message
news:joe.public.2wvhp0@no-mx.forums.net...
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to delete the folders that appear in the
user directory -
> music, video etc. I'm the only user of the
computer. I presume you do
> so editing these reg keys:
>
>
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell
> Folders
>
>
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User
> Shell Folders
>
>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Shell
> Folders
>
>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\User
> Shell Folders
>
> What I'm wondering is, are they any unforeseen
bad consequences of
> doing this?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> joe public
Top
From: joe public
<joe.public.2x4yo1@no-mx.forums.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Consequences of deleting music, video etc folders?
Date:
09/18/2007 21:29:45
Thanks guys,
hiding them doesn't really cut it, but nice idea. I
suppose I'm just
being picky about what I want to appear on menus, how
I organise my
files etc - and it was easy and inconsequential on XP
to permanently
remove my docs etc.
Anyway, I'll leave them be - it hardly seems worth
mucking around if
there's much at risk - although I'm quite happy
fiddling with the reg...
--
joe public
Top
From: brink
<brink.2x4zcz@no-mx.forums.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Consequences of deleting music, video etc folders?
Date:
09/18/2007 21:38:04
joe public;456143 Wrote:
> Thanks guys,
>
> hiding them doesn't really cut it, but nice idea.
I suppose I'm just
> being picky about what I want to appear on menus,
how I organise my
> files etc - and it was easy and inconsequential
on XP to permanently
> remove my docs etc.
>
> Anyway, I'll leave them be - it hardly seems
worth mucking around if
> there's much at risk - although I'm quite happy
fiddling with the reg...
Your welcome,
Yeah, I know how you feel. Just about everything
revolves around the
personal folders though, in one way or another.
Shawn
--
brink
*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do
not ask them.*
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(\"HTTP://WWW.VISTAX64.COM\")
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From: robert.stojanov@gmail.com
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Clear Recent Documents
Date:
09/17/2007 06:11:20
Yes, you can.
Top
From: dean-dean
<dean-dean@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Clear Recent Documents
Date:
09/17/2007 10:38:33
If you are referring to the shortcut to "Recently
Changed", under Favorite
Links, that is a shortcut to a Search Folder, which is
of the file type
".search-ms" (a super-hidden file
extension); it lists files on your
computer that meet a certain criteria. It is not a
Folder, or directory, in
the normal sense. Deleting files in that "saved
Search" will delete the
actual files from your computer, wherever they may be,
in whatever folder
they may be in. You can right-click on each file to
choose Open File
Location, or Properties, to see where the file is
actually stored.
You can delete the files in the list that is presented,
but keep the above
explanation in mind...
"ARIS" wrote in message
news:21A46D06-0BA4-4A00-BDF1-627C35EAD247@microsoft.com...
> I'm using Vista Home Premium. Under Favorite
Links -Searches can you clear
> the recent documents, recent E-mail, recent music
and so on files? Thank
> you.
Top
From: ARIS
<ARIS@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Clear Recent Documents
Date:
09/18/2007 03:02:10
Thank you for your reply. So there is no way to clear
those searches without
deleting the actual files? If not, does it atleast
updates once a while. I
mean will the old search files be reblaced by more
recent ones, or will the
list be getting longer and longer. I hope you
understand what I mean. Thank
you.
"dean-dean" wrote:
> If you are referring to the shortcut to
"Recently Changed", under Favorite
> Links, that is a shortcut to a Search Folder,
which is of the file type
> ".search-ms" (a super-hidden file
extension); it lists files on your
> computer that meet a certain criteria. It is not
a Folder, or directory, in
> the normal sense. Deleting files in that
"saved Search" will delete the
> actual files from your computer, wherever they
may be, in whatever folder
> they may be in. You can right-click on each file
to choose Open File
> Location, or Properties, to see where the file is
actually stored.
>
> You can delete the files in the list that is
presented, but keep the above
> explanation in mind...
>
> "ARIS" wrote in message
>
news:21A46D06-0BA4-4A00-BDF1-627C35EAD247@microsoft.com...
> > I'm using Vista Home Premium. Under Favorite
Links -Searches can you clear
> > the recent documents, recent E-mail, recent
music and so on files? Thank
> > you.
>
Top
From: Jeannie in WA <Jeannie in
WA@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Clear Recent Documents
Date:
09/29/2007 02:22:00
I noticed that deleted files are also included in the
lists and can't be
deleted because windows can't find them so they stay
on the list!
"ARIS" wrote:
> Thank you for your reply. So there is no way to
clear those searches without
> deleting the actual files? If not, does it
atleast updates once a while. I
> mean will the old search files be reblaced by
more recent ones, or will the
> list be getting longer and longer. I hope you
understand what I mean. Thank
> you.
>
> "dean-dean" wrote:
>
> > If you are referring to the shortcut to
"Recently Changed", under Favorite
> > Links, that is a shortcut to a Search
Folder, which is of the file type
> > ".search-ms" (a super-hidden file
extension); it lists files on your
> > computer that meet a certain criteria. It is
not a Folder, or directory, in
> > the normal sense. Deleting files in that
"saved Search" will delete the
> > actual files from your computer, wherever
they may be, in whatever folder
> > they may be in. You can right-click on each
file to choose Open File
> > Location, or Properties, to see where the
file is actually stored.
> >
> > You can delete the files in the list that is
presented, but keep the above
> > explanation in mind...
> >
> > "ARIS" wrote in message
> >
news:21A46D06-0BA4-4A00-BDF1-627C35EAD247@microsoft.com...
> > > I'm using Vista Home Premium. Under
Favorite Links -Searches can you clear
> > > the recent documents, recent E-mail,
recent music and so on files? Thank
> > > you.
> >
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From: dean-dean
<dean-dean@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: chkdsk /f does nothing for damaged drive.
Date:
09/19/2007 21:53:53
Do you have access to a Vista Install Disc? If so, try
running chkdsk in
Command Prompt from there, by booting the disc. Here's
how:
How to use the Command Prompt in the Vista Windows
Recovery Environment
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial147.html
"chainsinthewall" wrote in message
news:chainsinthewall.2x6tcs@no-mx.forums.net...
>
> I apparently have a damaged drive. I ran chkdsk
C: on vista and it said
> the Volume Bitmap is incorrect. i have vista set
up to run chkdsk /f on
> start up, but when it starts, chkdsk sits there
at 0% and does not move.
>
>
> --
> chainsinthewall
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From: brink
<brink.2x6vfc@no-mx.forums.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: chkdsk /f does nothing for damaged drive.
Date:
09/19/2007 22:04:14
chainsinthewall;457236 Wrote:
> I apparently have a damaged drive. I ran chkdsk
C: on vista and it said
> the Volume Bitmap is incorrect. i have vista set
up to run chkdsk /f on
> start up, but when it starts, chkdsk sits there
at 0% and does not move.
Hi ChainsInTheWall,
Welcome to Vistax64.com forum and this newsgroup.
Are you receiving any errors while in Vista or having
any other
noticable problems? If so, you may consider booting
from the Vista
installation DVD and deleting all partitions on that
hard drive and then
format it and reinstall Vista. Be sure to backup
anything you do not
want to loose first. Hopefully this may help.
Otherwise, it is time to
get a new hard drive.
Shawn
--
brink
*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do
not ask them.*
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(\"HTTP://WWW.VISTAX64.COM\")
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From: Pete Stavrakoglou
<ntotrr@optonline.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: CANNOT FIND ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!
Date:
09/18/2007 08:53:25
"Annie" wrote in message
news:DC2D4419-CC9F-441A-AA2D-87012CF441FF@microsoft.com...
> Dean...you're wonderful for responding so
quickly! I figured that one out
> a
> couple of minutes after I wrote asking for help.
(I should've replied to
> my
> own reply. LOL) I am now finishing all the
updates/patches to be
> compatible
> with Vista. This has been quite an adventure and
learning experience.
> Thanks for all your help!
>
> So...do you know anything about replacing hard
drives in laptops and then
> using the restore disk? That's my new challenge!
I want to repair my old
> laptop. Best Buy said it would cost $400 and I
just can't see spending
> that
> much. I'm sure most of that is labor. This new
one only cost $150 more
> than
> that!
>
> I'm going to check on another board and see
what's involved. I'll give
> more
> details there.
>
> Thanks again! You've been great...and very
reliable.
> "dean-dean" wrote:
Annie, I replaced the hard drive in a Toshiba laptop,
it was extremely easy
to do. I replaced a failed 40GB drive with an 80 GB
drive. Then I used the
restore disks to restore the system (Windows XP). On
the bottom of the
laptop you'll see a few "panels". If you can
determine whiich one os for
the hard drive, you only need to unscrew the panel and
then replace the
drive. What Best Buy is asking to repair is crazy,
IMO. You can pick up a
drive for $ 100.00 or less, install it, then restore
the system yourself.
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From: Annie
<Annie@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: CANNOT FIND ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!
Date:
09/23/2007 07:22:01
Pete, Thank you! I've been looking online for a hard
drive. do you have any
suggestions for a reliable site to go to?
So all I have to do is pop the one out, put the other
one in and put the
restore disks in? That simple! That's great. Putting
all my backed-up
stuff will take longer I imagine.
Are you on the boards often? Can I write back in this
thread for more help
if I get into a jam?
"Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote:
> "Annie" wrote in message
> news:DC2D4419-CC9F-441A-AA2D-87012CF441FF@microsoft.com...
> > Dean...you're wonderful for responding so
quickly! I figured that one out
> > a
> > couple of minutes after I wrote asking for
help. (I should've replied to
> > my
> > own reply. LOL) I am now finishing all the
updates/patches to be
> > compatible
> > with Vista. This has been quite an adventure
and learning experience.
> > Thanks for all your help!
> >
> > So...do you know anything about replacing
hard drives in laptops and then
> > using the restore disk? That's my new
challenge! I want to repair my old
> > laptop. Best Buy said it would cost $400 and
I just can't see spending
> > that
> > much. I'm sure most of that is labor. This
new one only cost $150 more
> > than
> > that!
> >
> > I'm going to check on another board and see
what's involved. I'll give
> > more
> > details there.
> >
> > Thanks again! You've been great...and very
reliable.
> > "dean-dean" wrote:
>
>
> Annie, I replaced the hard drive in a Toshiba
laptop, it was extremely easy
> to do. I replaced a failed 40GB drive with an 80
GB drive. Then I used the
> restore disks to restore the system (Windows XP).
On the bottom of the
> laptop you'll see a few "panels". If
you can determine whiich one os for
> the hard drive, you only need to unscrew the
panel and then replace the
> drive. What Best Buy is asking to repair is
crazy, IMO. You can pick up a
> drive for $ 100.00 or less, install it, then
restore the system yourself.
>
>
>
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From: Pete Stavrakoglou
<ntotrr@optonline.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: CANNOT FIND ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!
Date:
09/24/2007 12:00:05
"Annie" wrote in message
news:A43A2A60-9849-43E6-A17E-022FC40EE7F9@microsoft.com...
> Pete, Thank you! I've been looking online for a
hard drive. do you have
> any
> suggestions for a reliable site to go to?
>
> So all I have to do is pop the one out, put the
other one in and put the
> restore disks in? That simple! That's great.
Putting all my backed-up
> stuff will take longer I imagine.
>
> Are you on the boards often? Can I write back in
this thread for more
> help
> if I get into a jam?
Hi Annie. I'm on the board now and then. I don't have
a lot to offer but I
have something now and then :)
Feel free to contact me at my personal email address
ntotrr@o p t o n l i n
e.net (take out the spaces I inserted in that address.
I bought my drive on ebay. I looked for a good price
from a seller with
good feedback rating. I got an 80 GB drive for around
$ 80.00 which is far
cheaper than what it would cost at a local big box
store like Best Buy. I
referenced the laptop model number in the ebay auction
and found one that
fit. I didn't bid on it, I ordered at the "Buy
Now" price since it was a
very reasonable price. I put the drive in, loaded the
disks, and restored
the system.
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From: Pete Stavrakoglou <ntotrr@optonline.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: CANNOT FIND ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!
Date:
09/24/2007 12:02:07
"Annie" wrote in message
news:A43A2A60-9849-43E6-A17E-022FC40EE7F9@microsoft.com...
> Pete, Thank you! I've been looking online for a
hard drive. do you have
> any
> suggestions for a reliable site to go to?
>
> So all I have to do is pop the one out, put the
other one in and put the
> restore disks in? That simple! That's great.
Putting all my backed-up
> stuff will take longer I imagine.
>
> Are you on the boards often? Can I write back in
this thread for more
> help
> if I get into a jam?
Oh yeah, I should have added this note: if you don't
want to go the ebay
route, newegg.com is an excellent place to buy
hardware from. You can get
anything you need from them. Prices are very good and
shipping is fast.
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From: Annie
<Annie@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: CANNOT FIND ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!
Date:
09/24/2007 17:16:00
Thanks Pete! You've helped a lot. I actually have an
ebay store so am
familiar with the site. I'll check it out.....then
newegg if I don't have
any luck on ebay. Thanks again! I'm really excited to
get my old computer
up and working. I actually like it better than my new
one!!! Go figure!
"Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote:
> "Annie" wrote in message
>
news:A43A2A60-9849-43E6-A17E-022FC40EE7F9@microsoft.com...
> > Pete, Thank you! I've been looking online
for a hard drive. do you have
> > any
> > suggestions for a reliable site to go to?
> >
> > So all I have to do is pop the one out, put
the other one in and put the
> > restore disks in? That simple! That's great.
Putting all my backed-up
> > stuff will take longer I imagine.
> >
> > Are you on the boards often? Can I write
back in this thread for more
> > help
> > if I get into a jam?
>
> Oh yeah, I should have added this note: if you
don't want to go the ebay
> route, newegg.com is an excellent place to buy
hardware from. You can get
> anything you need from them. Prices are very good
and shipping is fast.
>
>
>
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From: Malke
<notreally@invalid.invalid>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Can't save modifed HOSTS file
Date:
09/27/2007 15:00:50
Merlin wrote:
> I am trying to add a line to the HOSTS file in
/Window/System32/drivers/etc
> directory (Per HP instructions on a scanner
communication problem) and vista
> won't let me save the changes (using Notepad).
Keeps telling me can't create
> the file be sure directory and location are
correct. Can anyone tell me what
> I am doing wrong?
Run Notepad as Administrator. Find the shortcut for
Notepad in your
Programs list, right-click on it and choose "run
as Administrator". Now
do File>Open to get the Hosts file. Make your
changes and you should be
able to save it now.
Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
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From: PaulB
<PaulB@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Can't find a file
Date:
09/19/2007 20:38:01
Can't you just reopen the attachment and then save
as...
--
Paul
"Kieron" wrote:
> I'm using windows mail on Vista.
>
> I opened an e-mail, opened the word attachment
and worked for 5-6 hrs saving
> all the time. I did not "save as" just
hit the save button.
>
> Any idea on how to find my file. Normal search
doesn't work.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Kieron
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From: Kieron
<Kieron@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Can't find a file
Date:
09/19/2007 20:42:01
The issue is I need the work I did to it. If I just
open the file all i've
got is what I started with.
"PaulB" wrote:
> Can't you just reopen the attachment and then
save as...
> --
> Paul
>
>
> "Kieron" wrote:
>
> > I'm using windows mail on Vista.
> >
> > I opened an e-mail, opened the word
attachment and worked for 5-6 hrs saving
> > all the time. I did not "save as"
just hit the save button.
> >
> > Any idea on how to find my file. Normal
search doesn't work.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Kieron
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From: PaulB
<PaulB@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Can't find a file
Date:
09/19/2007 20:56:00
When I reopen an attached file that I have modified
and had just hit save,
the changes that I made are still contained in the
attachment.
--
Paul
"Kieron" wrote:
> The issue is I need the work I did to it. If I
just open the file all i've
> got is what I started with.
>
> "PaulB" wrote:
>
> > Can't you just reopen the attachment and
then save as...
> > --
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > "Kieron" wrote:
> >
> > > I'm using windows mail on Vista.
> > >
> > > I opened an e-mail, opened the word
attachment and worked for 5-6 hrs saving
> > > all the time. I did not "save
as" just hit the save button.
> > >
> > > Any idea on how to find my file. Normal
search doesn't work.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Kieron
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From: PaulB
<PaulB@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Can't find a file
Date:
09/19/2007 21:06:03
You can find the modified file in the temporary
internet files.
C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary
Internet
Files\Content.IE5\*\.doc
--
Paul
"Kieron" wrote:
> The issue is I need the work I did to it. If I
just open the file all i've
> got is what I started with.
>
> "PaulB" wrote:
>
> > Can't you just reopen the attachment and
then save as...
> > --
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > "Kieron" wrote:
> >
> > > I'm using windows mail on Vista.
> > >
> > > I opened an e-mail, opened the word
attachment and worked for 5-6 hrs saving
> > > all the time. I did not "save
as" just hit the save button.
> > >
> > > Any idea on how to find my file. Normal
search doesn't work.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Kieron
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From: Kieron
<Kieron@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
RE: Can't find a file
Date:
09/19/2007 22:06:00
Perfect Paul. Thank you very much.
K-
"PaulB" wrote:
> You can find the modified file in the temporary
internet files.
>
C:\Users\\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\*\.doc
> --
> Paul
>
>
> "Kieron" wrote:
>
> > The issue is I need the work I did to it. If
I just open the file all i've
> > got is what I started with.
> >
> > "PaulB" wrote:
> >
> > > Can't you just reopen the attachment
and then save as...
> > > --
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > "Kieron" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm using windows mail on Vista.
> > > >
> > > > I opened an e-mail, opened the
word attachment and worked for 5-6 hrs saving
> > > > all the time. I did not "save
as" just hit the save button.
> > > >
> > > > Any idea on how to find my file.
Normal search doesn't work.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Kieron
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From: P. Di Stolfo <paolodistolfo@hotmail.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Can i get them back from the evil recycle bin?
Date:
09/16/2007 13:21:19
Hello,
you mean you would like to undelete a file? Try this
http://www.officerecovery.com/freeundelete/ or another
undelete solution.
Hope this will help you. Good luck.
Greetings,
P. Di Stolfo
--
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
// http://blog.lysorp.com - small Windows Blog in
German language
//-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Star" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:DC4D7273-0D89-429B-B507-38586131165A@microsoft.com...
> in trying to free up space i deleted some file
doubles however i only the
> last half was in the recycle bin...i now realise
i need a file deleted in
> the
> FIRST half! Is there a way to get back the first
half which disappeared?!
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From: Ken Blake, MVP
<kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Can i get them back from the evil recycle bin?
Date:
09/16/2007 19:43:16
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:58:01 -0700, Star
wrote:
> in trying to free up space i deleted some file
doubles however i only the
> last half was in the recycle bin...i now realise
i need a file deleted in the
> FIRST half! Is there a way to get back the first
half which disappeared?!
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking, but if
you want to
undelete a file that's not in the recycle bin, read
the following:
"Deleting" a file doesn't actually delete
it; it just marks the space
as available to be used. There are third-party
programs that can
sometimes recover deleted files. The problem is that the
space used by
the file is likely to become overwritten very quickly,
and this makes
the file unrecoverable.
So your chances of successfully recovering this file
are decent if you
try recovering it immediately after deleting it, and
rapidly go
downhill from there. If you've been using the computer
since then (for
example to write this question and read this answer),
your chances are
probably very poor by now.
But if the file is important enough, it's worth a try
anyway. Stop
using the computer in question immediately, if you
haven't done so
already. Download an undelete program (here's one:
http://www3.telus.net/mikebike/RESTORATION.html but
there are several
others to choose from; do a Google search) on a
friend's computer and
bring it to yours on a floppy to try.
If this fails, your only other recourse is to take the
drive to a
professional file recovery company. This kind of
service is very
expensive and may or may not work in your case.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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From: R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Can i get them back from the evil recycle bin?
Date:
09/17/2007 10:03:31
Hi, Star.
How big were those deleted files? How big is your
Recycle Bin?
Deleted files normally go into the RB and stay there
until that space is
needed for later deletions. If your RB is 10 GB and
you've deleted 15 GB of
files, then the first 5 GB will have been emptied from
the RB - and
permanently deleted - to make room for the final 10
GB.
For the future, you might want to increase the size of
your RB. To do this,
right-click on the Recycle Bin icon on your desktop and
click Properties.
As to your already "lost" files - maybe they
are not completely lost; they
may or may not be recoverable. See MVP Ken Blake's
reply to your post.
Good luck!
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
"Star" wrote in message
news:DC4D7273-0D89-429B-B507-38586131165A@microsoft.com...
> in trying to free up space i deleted some file
doubles however i only the
> last half was in the recycle bin...i now realise
i need a file deleted in
> the
> FIRST half! Is there a way to get back the first
half which disappeared?!
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From: vanilla
<vanilla@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Can i get them back from the evil recycle bin?
Date:
09/20/2007 00:37:49
Dittos to R C White's post and one little comment to
add: don't empty the
trash for a week. Or some other arbitrary number of
days. I lost valuable
stuff in the past, too ... so now I make myself wait a
week or many days
anyway before I empty it. Often, I open it up because
I can't remember what
is in there ... this is a good, last-minute
double-check.
vanilla
"R. C. White" wrote in message
news:83710A83-F73E-49CD-9612-4519B182ACE5@microsoft.com...
> Hi, Star.
>
> How big were those deleted files? How big is your
Recycle Bin?
>
> Deleted files normally go into the RB and stay
there until that space is
> needed for later deletions. If your RB is 10 GB
and you've deleted 15 GB
> of files, then the first 5 GB will have been
emptied from the RB - and
> permanently deleted - to make room for the final
10 GB.
>
> For the future, you might want to increase the
size of your RB. To do
> this, right-click on the Recycle Bin icon on your
desktop and click
> Properties.
>
> As to your already "lost" files - maybe
they are not completely lost; they
> may or may not be recoverable. See MVP Ken
Blake's reply to your post.
> Good luck!
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate
x64)
>
> "Star" wrote in message
> news:DC4D7273-0D89-429B-B507-38586131165A@microsoft.com...
>> in trying to free up space i deleted some
file doubles however i only the
>> last half was in the recycle bin...i now
realise i need a file deleted in
>> the
>> FIRST half! Is there a way to get back the
first half which disappeared?!
>
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From: cebess@hotmail.com
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Blank text in search results
Date:
09/26/2007 09:54:29
On Sep 26, 9:34 am, ceb...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have also seen the Vista search window for
e-mail come up with
> generic white icons but no visible text. This
just started happening
> yesterday. If I click on "All" I will
see text and icons but if I go
> mail to "E-mail" only I just get the
generic icon. If anyone has an
> idea, I'd be interested.
I did have a workaround though - If I put
"kind:email" in the search
field I at least can see the results and it is just
email. STRANGE.
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From: peter <peter@nowhere.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Backing up Vista and XP to the same disk
Date:
09/23/2007 08:56:19
Try creating 2 partitions on that drive...one for the
XP backup another for
the Vista backup
peter
"mike843536" wrote in message
news:3CB8D2EB-88E3-472B-B1D5-F7A22DDC34D3@microsoft.com...
>I have an external hard disk which I plan to use
to back up both my work
>(XP)
> and home (Vista) systems.
>
> The XP backup went fine (to a .bkf file) but when
I try to do a Vista
> Complete PC Backup I get a message saying
"The backup could take up to
> 57GB
> of disk space. Because a previous backup exists,
all of this space might
> not
> be required, and only the differences will be
saved." The date given for
> the
> most recent backup on the disk is the date of my
XP backup.
>
> I don't want to try to recover from a failed
drive months down the line
> and
> discover that either the Vista backup has
overwritten the XP backup or
> that
> they have become somehow mixed together and that
neither works... Is it
> possible for the two backups to live happily on
the same disk?
>
> Thanks
>
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From: Malke
<notreally@invalid.invalid>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Back Up Only Certain Files?
Date:
09/20/2007 05:26:26
riknoc wrote:
> I have Windows Vista Home Premium. (I know it
sucks) How can I back up only
> my music files. The back up wizard wants to back
up the windows drive at the
> very least. My music files are on a different
drive and I want to back up
> those files on a regular basis to an external
drive. I would like it to back
> up only what has been changed since the last
time. Can this be done?
My understanding is that the Vista backup isn't
flexible enough to meet
your needs. I suggest you use a third-party backup
program instead. I
highly recommend Second Copy (www.centered.com) for
pure backups;
Acronis True Image for imaging and incremental
backups.
Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP
<rv@invalid.org>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: b/u vista
Date:
09/28/2007 13:32:14
Most computer manufacturers who pre-install Windows do
not include an
installation DVD. Some will include a recovery DVD
that will reset the
system back to the state it was in when you purchased
the PC.
Some manufacturers will install a hidden partition on
the hard drive that
can be used to recover the system, but this works just
like the recovery DVD
and will just reset the system back to the state it
was in when you
purchased the system. Your computer manual should
explain what type of
recovery options are included with the system.
The product key should be on a sticker attached to the
bottom of the laptop.
Depending on the version of Vista that you purchased,
there are backup
programs included that you can use. Go to Start/All
Programs/Accessories/System Tools/Backup status and
configuration to see
what optins you have.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
"joblow" wrote in message
news:1D7E8CE2-DAFC-42E5-A600-A93FDB83501D@microsoft.com...
> bougght acer aspinre laptop. it seeems not to
have Vista CD.
>
> how do i make a backup copy of Windows Vista.
bear in mind i don't have
> any
> Pdt. Key as no Vista media was included in box.
>
> BTW: is this SOP or should i be looking for Vista
CD with computer?
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From: joblow
<joblow@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: b/u vista
Date:
09/28/2007 14:12:01
i know this is probably like starbucks calling a small
coffee, large, but
what is difference between OEM windows vista and
recovery or restore cd?
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From: joblow <joblow@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: b/u vista
Date:
09/28/2007 14:25:00
nfortunately there is no docs with acer aspire.
so i open "backup satus and configuration"
and yo can clik to box that ask you
'which disks do yo want to include in backup?'
choices are
Acer(c):(system)
or
Data(D)
it will not let me choose acer (c):(system)
what do i do next?
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From: peter <peter@nowhere.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: b/u vista
Date:
09/29/2007 08:45:26
You should have a Empoweing Technology Icon on your
desktop....by opening
this and going to the Erecovery section you will see
the various options for
creating a backup disk....setting up a F key recovery
at start up.....the
ability to reinstall specific programs or
everything.On Your C drives you
should also have a directory called BOOK in which you
will find the manual
in .pdf format which explains all of the options
available under Empowering
Technology
I personally used Acronis True Image and imaged my HD
to an external HD and
made an Acronis Emergency recovery disk which does not
need the OS in order
to place that image back.
peter
"joblow" wrote in message
news:0E95453E-DCE4-46FB-AD71-09CEE8ADC844@microsoft.com...
> nfortunately there is no docs with acer aspire.
>
> so i open "backup satus and
configuration" and yo can clik to box that ask
> you
> 'which disks do yo want to include in backup?'
>
> choices are
>
> Acer(c):(system)
> or
> Data(D)
>
> it will not let me choose acer (c):(system)
>
>
> what do i do next?
>
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From: Ken Blake, MVP
<kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: b/u vista
Date:
09/28/2007 13:41:09
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:24:01 -0700, joblow
wrote:
> bougght acer aspinre laptop. it seeems not to
have Vista CD.
>
> how do i make a backup copy of Windows Vista.
bear in mind i don't have any
> Pdt. Key as no Vista media was included in box.
>
> BTW: is this SOP or should i be looking for Vista
CD with computer?
OEM vendors are required by their agreement with
Microsoft to give you
a means of reinstalling, should it be necessary. They
can do this in
one of three ways:
1. An OEM copy of Windows
2. A restore CD
3. A hidden partition on your drive, with restore
information.
If you don't have 1 or 2, you should have 3, but you
should contact
your vendor to find out.
Personally, I find both 2 and 3 unacceptable
(especially 3; a hard
drive crash can leave you with nothing), and would
never choose to buy
a computer that came with an operating system unless I
got a complete
generic installation CD for that operating system.
As far as how to create a CD (or whether you even can),
unless someone
else here knows exactly what Acer provides (I don't),
you should ask
Acer.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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From: occam <occam@razor.dot.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: b/u vista
Date:
09/29/2007 06:48:17
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:24:01 -0700, joblow
> wrote:
>
>> bougght acer aspinre laptop. it seeems not to
have Vista CD.
>>
>> how do i make a backup copy of Windows Vista.
bear in mind i don't have any
>> Pdt. Key as no Vista media was included in
box.
>>
>> BTW: is this SOP or should i be looking for
Vista CD with computer?
>
>
>
> OEM vendors are required by their agreement with
Microsoft to give you
> a means of reinstalling, should it be necessary.
They can do this in
> one of three ways:
>
> 1. An OEM copy of Windows
> 2. A restore CD
> 3. A hidden partition on your drive, with restore
information.
>
> If you don't have 1 or 2, you should have 3, but
you should contact
> your vendor to find out.
>
> Personally, I find both 2 and 3 unacceptable
(especially 3; a hard
> drive crash can leave you with nothing), and
would never choose to buy
> a computer that came with an operating system
unless I got a complete
> generic installation CD for that operating
system.
>
> As far as how to create a CD (or whether you even
can), unless someone
> else here knows exactly what Acer provides (I
don't), you should ask
> Acer.
>
joblow, I made the same mistake and bought an Acer
recently. The
salesman assured me that on bootup, I would be given
one (and only one)
chance of creating a 'Vista Business' CD.
I got no such option.
As Ken says, there is a hidden partition on the drive
(see at the
'eRecovery' tool) which allows you to restore the
factory image of the
OS. (I also find this a pathetic option, even if you
are able to back it
up onto a CD.)
When I asked ACER Europe (where I am) about the promised
'Vista CD' I
got a bland 'Use the eRecovery facilities provided'
answer.
Never Acer again.
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From: joblow
<joblow@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: b/u vista
Date:
09/29/2007 09:46:01
thanks all ..i will try my best to folow thess
directions.
but i agree with ken,,,,
no acer ever again......
way to go acer,,,,,making computing MORE dificult
>
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From: John Hanley
<jphanley@ix.netcom.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: Automatic File Backup
Date:
09/16/2007 16:45:52
Michelle -- When I started out with my Vista Home
Premium computer, I tried
to use DVD's as my backup media; however, this was
futile for me because it
took too long and used many DVD's. I bought an
external 160 GB USB drive
for about $60 that I use solely for backups and that
has made my computer
backup management a breeze. The problem with backups
subsequent to the first
one: most of your files do actually change between
backups even though you
did not overtly change anything; things like your
anti-virus program marking
the file as ok are enough to trigger the need to back
it up again. Get that
external drive and you will be glad you did!
Cheers....
"Michelle" wrote in message
news:2ECE6AE9-A75A-41B6-8566-ABE23F7319C8@microsoft.com...
>I have new PC with Vista Home Premium. My
understanding is that once full
>file backup is done, subsequent backups only
include anything updated since
>last backup. I did 2 backups only a week apart
(with very little new in
>between). My first backup used up 2 DVDs and took
a really long time (like
>1-2 hrs) which I thought was unusual since I've
only used up 20% of my 250
>GB hard drive. But even more weird was that, just
one week later, my
>second backup used up the first 2 DVDs from my
first backup PLUS told me to
>insert a brand new blank DVD to continue with the
backup. At this point, I
>cancelled the backup because I figured there must
be something wrong. Why
>would my 2nd backup take 3 DVDs when my first one
only took 2 and I hardly
>added or changed anything in between? And is it
normal for backups to take
>more than an hour in my case?
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From: Isaac
<Isaac@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: AppData Folder
Date:
09/20/2007 11:04:00
Hello,
I have the same problem. I can´t access the AppData
Folder and I can´t find
how to do that. I´ve tried what suggested in this post
but I can´t find how.
Another strange issue is that Windows Vista is saving
multiple copies of my
files in this "secret" folder and now I have
big problem with data loses and
automatic writing :( What can I do to prevent Vista to
save in Virtual Store?
I have saved almost 10 G of data in my new computer
but the disk is now more
than 20 G used righ now. Is Vista doing a back up of
everything?
Thanks
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From: brink
<brink.2xao81@no-mx.forums.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: AppData Folder
Date:
09/21/2007 23:16:56
Isaac;457840 Wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have the same problem. I can´t access the
AppData Folder and I
> can´t find
> how to do that. I´ve tried what suggested in
this post but I can´t
> find how.
>
> Another strange issue is that Windows Vista is
saving multiple copies
> of my
> files in this "secret" folder and now I
have big problem with data
> loses and
> automatic writing :( What can I do to prevent
Vista to save in Virtual
> Store?
>
> I have saved almost 10 G of data in my new
computer but the disk is now
> more
> than 20 G used righ now. Is Vista doing a back up
of everything?
>
> Thanks
Hi Isaac,
To see the hidden file "AppData", see this
tutorial for how to show
hidden files.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/86163-hidden-files-folders.html
You might run Disk Cleanup to see if it can clean the
space up for you.
This tutorial will show you how to use Disk Cleanup.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76073-disk-cleanup.html
Shawn
--
brink
*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do
not ask them.*
WWW.VISTAX64.COM
(\"HTTP://WWW.VISTAX64.COM\")
*Please post feedback to help others.*
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From: occam <occam@razor.dot.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: AppData ... where kept?
Date:
09/27/2007 11:44:21
occam wrote:
> I have installed MailwasherPro (a mail
pre-filtering programe) on Vista
> Business.
>
> The installation, (as an admin) went OK, and the
programme installed and
> running OK.
>
> However, when I try to save some filters (from an
installation on Win
> XP) Vista complains:
>
> "Could not save the blacklist file (this
includes the friends list).
> Cannot create file:
>
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\MailwasherPro\blacklist.txt)"
>
OK, found the blacklist.txt file -- it is already
there. However Vista
is still complaining
"Access denied (EFCreate error)"
What is EFCreate error?
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From: Jon <Jon@peoplepc.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: A USB Hard Drive of a 16bit MS ME OS booting from a 32BIT
Vista - would it work?
Date:
09/18/2007 21:36:56
"Jon" wrote in message
news:%23LuSAeA8HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Old Pgms - I have expensive application software
that works on Win 3.1,
> Win 98, Win ME (all 16bit I think) on a 2000-era
Gateway desktop computer.
> I have the MS ME OS on a FAT32 hard drive there.
XP Business Office suite
> works fine on this MS ME. This desktop is
beginning to crater; one of the
> 2 hard drives already has bad sectors. The
monitor which was already
> originally a refurb is about 8-9 years old.
>
> New Vista - I also have a 32bit Vista Ultimate on
a new 17" 1.4Ghz
> notebook. My MS Vista Bios says I can boot from
either a CDROM/DVD, or a
> main hard drive, or a USB harddrive, or boot to a
LAN. I've put some
> Office 97 programs on this Vista and a few other
old programs.: all work.
>
> USB boot - What I'm thinking of is to take out my
still-working C
> harddrive Fat32 drive from the 16bit MS ME
desktop and attach a USB
> connection to it, then boot from it at my 32bit
Vista machine.
>
> This old C drive is bulging with 40-60 Gb's of
good software that is
> probably not transferable directly to Vista, and
most don't have new
> drivers for Vista. (Several programs use advanced
graduate school
> mathematics to decompose a long data stream into
multiple wave components,
> etc.) Ideally I would gain a nice new wide
monitor screen and a much
> faster speed without the years of trauma trying
to install zillions of old
> specialized programs on Vista who would balk at
each one. If this MS ME
> boot idea would work, naturally it would need
drivers to find the notebook
> monitor and keyboard and mouse, USB's, etc, but I
assume that could be
> done easily. Offhand I'd think this drive and
programs wouldn't know
> anything has changed except it now just runs
faster.
>
> In re-reading the MS Vista help file on dual
boots, they suggest a MS 2000
> could work as a duel boot on the same harddrive
as MS Vista. And MS 2000
> is a son of MS ME I think: they must be closely
alike, and to their
> grandson XP. What I don' t know is how would the
16bit MS ME OS 2000-era
> and application software on a Fat32 drive react
to a roaring 32bit 1.4Ghz
> Vista CPU, 2007-era designed for 32bit NTFS
format. I'd think the effect
> would be the same as if I just put a fast 1.4Ghz
CPU in my old MS ME
> desktop. Any experience, horror stories ,
warnings, successe stories or
> suggestions ,anyone?
> Thanks, Jon.
As clarification, 2 old programs on my MS ME desktop
computer had required
that I make changes in the system.ini file while they
are being installed
years ago. Once this is done they work great on MS ME.
That's why I can't
just use the desktop as an appendege to my Vista
computer because the Vista
booting doesn't do the right tricks to make these
programs work. I dimly
recall that someone told me this system.ini trick
would not work on a NT OS,
especially MS Win 3.1 NS. On my Vista notebook,
changing the system.ini file
has been a problem, but also some of the registry
entries don't get written
during the program installation process- and
apparently the reuired lines
are copied into my my personal "documents"
folder. To get these old programs
to work I have to boot from a MS ME OS.
* One option is to fix up my 6 year old MS ME and use
it when I want to run
either of these two programs. To that end, I ordered a
new WD harddrive to
replace my C ?
computers all the time.
* Another possibility is to obtain a MS XP v2002 OS to
upgrade the MS ME to
XP OS on my desktop FAT32 C drive, (assuming it won't
mess with my programs
or with the system.ini file) then somehow get this
same XP OS (on the old
desktop) over to my Vista notebook as some sort of a
multiboot.(I assume XP
2002 would have drivers for the notebook monitor and
keyboard.) Apparently
the XP 2003 OS will not work or upgrade at all on a MS
ME computer. When I
see written that XP and Vista can be used in
multiboots, I can't tell which
XP version (2002, 2003, 2007?) they are talking about.
Another issue is if I
install XP 2002 on my desktop, Microsoft might want me
to pay money to
reinstall it on my Vista notebook, which would be a
2nd machine.
* Another possibility is to try out the Vistual PC
2007 which supposedly
allows Win 98, Win ME, Win XP, etc. to be run along
with Vista. I've
downloaded the free program and will work on the
courage to tenative try it
maybe.
I have health problems and don't have spans of time to
do a lot of computer
testing work. If anyone sees me heading for a disaster
here, please advise.
Jon.
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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP
<rv@invalid.org>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: A USB Hard Drive of a 16bit MS ME OS booting from a 32BIT
Vista - would it work?
Date:
09/19/2007 01:28:34
Jon
it
This is the option I would recommend. There is a news
group that is
dedicated to Virtual PC. I would recommend you go
there and ask the experts
the location for tutorials on setting this up. Here is
a link to that group.
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.virtualpc
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
"Jon" wrote in message
news:%23xd2$Xm%23HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Jon" wrote in message
> news:%23LuSAeA8HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Old Pgms - I have expensive application
software that works on Win 3.1,
>> Win 98, Win ME (all 16bit I think) on a
2000-era Gateway desktop
>> computer. I have the MS ME OS on a FAT32 hard
drive there. XP Business
>> Office suite works fine on this MS ME. This
desktop is beginning to
>> crater; one of the 2 hard drives already has
bad sectors. The monitor
>> which was already originally a refurb is
about 8-9 years old.
>>
>> New Vista - I also have a 32bit Vista
Ultimate on a new 17" 1.4Ghz
>> notebook. My MS Vista Bios says I can boot
from either a CDROM/DVD, or a
>> main hard drive, or a USB harddrive, or boot
to a LAN. I've put some
>> Office 97 programs on this Vista and a few
other old programs.: all work.
>>
>> USB boot - What I'm thinking of is to take
out my still-working C
>> harddrive Fat32 drive from the 16bit MS ME
desktop and attach a USB
>> connection to it, then boot from it at my
32bit Vista machine.
>>
>> This old C drive is bulging with 40-60 Gb's
of good software that is
>> probably not transferable directly to Vista,
and most don't have new
>> drivers for Vista. (Several programs use
advanced graduate school
>> mathematics to decompose a long data stream
into multiple wave
>> components, etc.) Ideally I would gain a nice
new wide monitor screen
>> and a much faster speed without the years of
trauma trying to install
>> zillions of old specialized programs on Vista
who would balk at each one.
>> If this MS ME boot idea would work, naturally
it would need drivers to
>> find the notebook monitor and keyboard and mouse,
USB's, etc, but I
>> assume that could be done easily. Offhand I'd
think this drive and
>> programs wouldn't know anything has changed
except it now just runs
>> faster.
>>
>> In re-reading the MS Vista help file on dual
boots, they suggest a MS
>> 2000 could work as a duel boot on the same
harddrive as MS Vista. And MS
>> 2000 is a son of MS ME I think: they must be
closely alike, and to their
>> grandson XP. What I don' t know is how would
the 16bit MS ME OS 2000-era
>> and application software on a Fat32 drive
react to a roaring 32bit 1.4Ghz
>> Vista CPU, 2007-era designed for 32bit NTFS
format. I'd think the effect
>> would be the same as if I just put a fast
1.4Ghz CPU in my old MS ME
>> desktop. Any experience, horror stories ,
warnings, successe stories or
>> suggestions ,anyone?
>> Thanks, Jon.
>
> As clarification, 2 old programs on my MS ME
desktop computer had required
> that I make changes in the system.ini file while
they are being installed
> years ago. Once this is done they work great on
MS ME. That's why I can't
> just use the desktop as an appendege to my Vista
computer because the
> Vista booting doesn't do the right tricks to make
these programs work. I
> dimly recall that someone told me this system.ini
trick would not work on
> a NT OS, especially MS Win 3.1 NS. On my Vista
notebook, changing the
> system.ini file has been a problem, but also some
of the registry entries
> don't get written during the program installation
process- and apparently
> the reuired lines are copied into my my personal
"documents" folder. To
> get these old programs to work I have to boot
from a MS ME OS.
>
> * One option is to fix up my 6 year old MS ME and
use it when I want to
> run either of these two programs. To that end, I
ordered a new WD
> harddrive to replace my C ?
> two different computers all the time.
>
> * Another possibility is to obtain a MS XP v2002
OS to upgrade the MS ME
> to XP OS on my desktop FAT32 C drive, (assuming
it won't mess with my
> programs or with the system.ini file) then
somehow get this same XP OS (on
> the old desktop) over to my Vista notebook as
some sort of a multiboot.(I
> assume XP 2002 would have drivers for the
notebook monitor and keyboard.)
> Apparently the XP 2003 OS will not work or
upgrade at all on a MS ME
> computer. When I see written that XP and Vista
can be used in multiboots,
> I can't tell which XP version (2002, 2003, 2007?)
they are talking about.
> Another issue is if I install XP 2002 on my
desktop, Microsoft might want
> me to pay money to reinstall it on my Vista
notebook, which would be a 2nd
> machine.
>
> * Another possibility is to try out the Vistual
PC 2007 which supposedly
> allows Win 98, Win ME, Win XP, etc. to be run
along with Vista. I've
> downloaded the free program and will work on the
courage to tenative try
> it maybe.
>
> I have health problems and don't have spans of
time to do a lot of
> computer testing work. If anyone sees me heading
for a disaster here,
> please advise.
> Jon.
>
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From: Jon <Jon@peoplepc.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: A USB Hard Drive of a 16bit MS ME OS booting from a 32BIT
Vista - would it work?
Date:
09/19/2007 18:52:27
Thanks Ronnie. You've been a major help of mercy in my
situation here. I
never heard of Virtual PC til you mentioned it
earlier. I'll follow your
recommendation and look into the Virtual PC newsgroup.
Jon.
"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote in message
news:AD9C6226-0046-451D-9801-4B5779D9496D@microsoft.com...
> Jon
>
> > > > it
> >
> This is the option I would recommend. There is a
news group that is
> dedicated to Virtual PC. I would recommend you go
there and ask the
> experts the location for tutorials on setting
this up. Here is a link to
> that group.
>
>
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.virtualpc
>
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Jon" wrote in message
> news:%23xd2$Xm%23HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Jon" wrote in message
>>
news:%23LuSAeA8HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Old Pgms - I have expensive application
software that works on Win 3.1,
>>> Win 98, Win ME (all 16bit I think) on a
2000-era Gateway desktop
>>> computer. I have the MS ME OS on a FAT32
hard drive there. XP Business
>>> Office suite works fine on this MS ME.
This desktop is beginning to
>>> crater; one of the 2 hard drives already
has bad sectors. The monitor
>>> which was already originally a refurb is
about 8-9 years old.
>>>
>>> New Vista - I also have a 32bit Vista
Ultimate on a new 17" 1.4Ghz
>>> notebook. My MS Vista Bios says I can
boot from either a CDROM/DVD, or a
>>> main hard drive, or a USB harddrive, or
boot to a LAN. I've put some
>>> Office 97 programs on this Vista and a
few other old programs.: all
>>> work.
>>>
>>> USB boot - What I'm thinking of is to
take out my still-working C
>>> harddrive Fat32 drive from the 16bit MS
ME desktop and attach a USB
>>> connection to it, then boot from it at my
32bit Vista machine.
>>>
>>> This old C drive is bulging with 40-60
Gb's of good software that is
>>> probably not transferable directly to
Vista, and most don't have new
>>> drivers for Vista. (Several programs use
advanced graduate school
>>> mathematics to decompose a long data
stream into multiple wave
>>> components, etc.) Ideally I would gain a
nice new wide monitor screen
>>> and a much faster speed without the years
of trauma trying to install
>>> zillions of old specialized programs on
Vista who would balk at each
>>> one. If this MS ME boot idea would work,
naturally it would need drivers
>>> to find the notebook monitor and keyboard
and mouse, USB's, etc, but I
>>> assume that could be done easily. Offhand
I'd think this drive and
>>> programs wouldn't know anything has
changed except it now just runs
>>> faster.
>>>
>>> In re-reading the MS Vista help file on
dual boots, they suggest a MS
>>> 2000 could work as a duel boot on the
same harddrive as MS Vista. And MS
>>> 2000 is a son of MS ME I think: they must
be closely alike, and to their
>>> grandson XP. What I don' t know is how
would the 16bit MS ME OS 2000-era
>>> and application software on a Fat32 drive
react to a roaring 32bit
>>> 1.4Ghz Vista CPU, 2007-era designed for
32bit NTFS format. I'd think the
>>> effect would be the same as if I just put
a fast 1.4Ghz CPU in my old MS
>>> ME desktop. Any experience, horror
stories , warnings, successe stories
>>> or suggestions ,anyone?
>>> Thanks, Jon.
>>
>> As clarification, 2 old programs on my MS ME
desktop computer had
>> required that I make changes in the
system.ini file while they are being
>> installed years ago. Once this is done they
work great on MS ME. That's
>> why I can't just use the desktop as an
appendege to my Vista computer
>> because the Vista booting doesn't do the
right tricks to make these
>> programs work. I dimly recall that someone
told me this system.ini trick
>> would not work on a NT OS, especially MS Win 3.1
NS. On my Vista
>> notebook, changing the system.ini file has
been a problem, but also some
>> of the registry entries don't get written
during the program installation
>> process- and apparently the reuired lines are
copied into my my personal
>> "documents" folder. To get these
old programs to work I have to boot from
>> a MS ME OS.
>>
>> * One option is to fix up my 6 year old MS ME
and use it when I want to
>> run either of these two programs. To that
end, I ordered a new WD
>> harddrive to replace my C ?
>> two different computers all the time.
>>
>> * Another possibility is to obtain a MS XP
v2002 OS to upgrade the MS ME
>> to XP OS on my desktop FAT32 C drive,
(assuming it won't mess with my
>> programs or with the system.ini file) then
somehow get this same XP OS
>> (on the old desktop) over to my Vista
notebook as some sort of a
>> multiboot.(I assume XP 2002 would have
drivers for the notebook monitor
>> and keyboard.) Apparently the XP 2003 OS will
not work or upgrade at all
>> on a MS ME computer. When I see written that
XP and Vista can be used in
>> multiboots, I can't tell which XP version
(2002, 2003, 2007?) they are
>> talking about. Another issue is if I install
XP 2002 on my desktop,
>> Microsoft might want me to pay money to
reinstall it on my Vista
>> notebook, which would be a 2nd machine.
>>
>> * Another possibility is to try out the
Vistual PC 2007 which supposedly
>> allows Win 98, Win ME, Win XP, etc. to be run
along with Vista. I've
>> downloaded the free program and will work on
the courage to tenative try
>> it maybe.
>>
>> I have health problems and don't have spans
of time to do a lot of
>> computer testing work. If anyone sees me
heading for a disaster here,
>> please advise.
>> Jon.
>>
>
Top
From: Ronnie Vernon MVP
<rv@invalid.org>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: A USB Hard Drive of a 16bit MS ME OS booting from a 32BIT
Vista - would it work?
Date:
09/20/2007 10:51:38
Jon
Glad to help.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
"Jon" wrote in message
news:eQS3vgx%23HHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Ronnie. You've been a major help of mercy
in my situation here. I
> never heard of Virtual PC til you mentioned it
earlier. I'll follow your
> recommendation and look into the Virtual PC
newsgroup.
> Jon.
>
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote in message
>
news:AD9C6226-0046-451D-9801-4B5779D9496D@microsoft.com...
>> Jon
>>
>> >> supposedly
>> >> >> try it
>> >>
>> This is the option I would recommend. There
is a news group that is
>> dedicated to Virtual PC. I would recommend
you go there and ask the
>> experts the location for tutorials on setting
this up. Here is a link to
>> that group.
>>
>>
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.virtualpc
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Jon" wrote in message
>>
news:%23xd2$Xm%23HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Jon" wrote in message
>>>
news:%23LuSAeA8HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Old Pgms - I have expensive
application software that works on Win 3.1,
>>>> Win 98, Win ME (all 16bit I think) on
a 2000-era Gateway desktop
>>>> computer. I have the MS ME OS on a
FAT32 hard drive there. XP Business
>>>> Office suite works fine on this MS
ME. This desktop is beginning to
>>>> crater; one of the 2 hard drives
already has bad sectors. The monitor
>>>> which was already originally a refurb
is about 8-9 years old.
>>>>
>>>> New Vista - I also have a 32bit Vista
Ultimate on a new 17" 1.4Ghz
>>>> notebook. My MS Vista Bios says I can
boot from either a CDROM/DVD, or
>>>> a main hard drive, or a USB
harddrive, or boot to a LAN. I've put some
>>>> Office 97 programs on this Vista and
a few other old programs.: all
>>>> work.
>>>>
>>>> USB boot - What I'm thinking of is to
take out my still-working C
>>>> harddrive Fat32 drive from the 16bit
MS ME desktop and attach a USB
>>>> connection to it, then boot from it
at my 32bit Vista machine.
>>>>
>>>> This old C drive is bulging with
40-60 Gb's of good software that is
>>>> probably not transferable directly to
Vista, and most don't have new
>>>> drivers for Vista. (Several programs
use advanced graduate school
>>>> mathematics to decompose a long data
stream into multiple wave
>>>> components, etc.) Ideally I would
gain a nice new wide monitor screen
>>>> and a much faster speed without the
years of trauma trying to install
>>>> zillions of old specialized programs
on Vista who would balk at each
>>>> one. If this MS ME boot idea would
work, naturally it would need
>>>> drivers to find the notebook monitor
and keyboard and mouse, USB's,
>>>> etc, but I assume that could be done
easily. Offhand I'd think this
>>>> drive and programs wouldn't know
anything has changed except it now
>>>> just runs faster.
>>>>
>>>> In re-reading the MS Vista help file
on dual boots, they suggest a MS
>>>> 2000 could work as a duel boot on the
same harddrive as MS Vista. And
>>>> MS 2000 is a son of MS ME I think:
they must be closely alike, and to
>>>> their grandson XP. What I don' t know
is how would the 16bit MS ME OS
>>>> 2000-era and application software on
a Fat32 drive react to a roaring
>>>> 32bit 1.4Ghz Vista CPU, 2007-era
designed for 32bit NTFS format. I'd
>>>> think the effect would be the same as
if I just put a fast 1.4Ghz CPU
>>>> in my old MS ME desktop. Any
experience, horror stories , warnings,
>>>> successe stories or suggestions
,anyone?
>>>> Thanks, Jon.
>>>
>>> As clarification, 2 old programs on my MS
ME desktop computer had
>>> required that I make changes in the
system.ini file while they are being
>>> installed years ago. Once this is done
they work great on MS ME. That's
>>> why I can't just use the desktop as an
appendege to my Vista computer
>>> because the Vista booting doesn't do the
right tricks to make these
>>> programs work. I dimly recall that
someone told me this system.ini trick
>>> would not work on a NT OS, especially MS
Win 3.1 NS. On my Vista
>>> notebook, changing the system.ini file
has been a problem, but also some
>>> of the registry entries don't get written
during the program
>>> installation process- and apparently the
reuired lines are copied into
>>> my my personal "documents"
folder. To get these old programs to work I
>>> have to boot from a MS ME OS.
>>>
>>> * One option is to fix up my 6 year old
MS ME and use it when I want to
>>> run either of these two programs. To that
end, I ordered a new WD
>>> harddrive to replace my C ?
>>> upkeep two different computers all the
time.
>>>
>>> * Another possibility is to obtain a MS
XP v2002 OS to upgrade the MS ME
>>> to XP OS on my desktop FAT32 C drive,
(assuming it won't mess with my
>>> programs or with the system.ini file)
then somehow get this same XP OS
>>> (on the old desktop) over to my Vista
notebook as some sort of a
>>> multiboot.(I assume XP 2002 would have
drivers for the notebook monitor
>>> and keyboard.) Apparently the XP 2003 OS
will not work or upgrade at all
>>> on a MS ME computer. When I see written
that XP and Vista can be used in
>>> multiboots, I can't tell which XP version
(2002, 2003, 2007?) they are
>>> talking about. Another issue is if I
install XP 2002 on my desktop,
>>> Microsoft might want me to pay money to
reinstall it on my Vista
>>> notebook, which would be a 2nd machine.
>>>
>>> * Another possibility is to try out the
Vistual PC 2007 which supposedly
>>> allows Win 98, Win ME, Win XP, etc. to be
run along with Vista. I've
>>> downloaded the free program and will work
on the courage to tenative try
>>> it maybe.
>>>
>>> I have health problems and don't have
spans of time to do a lot of
>>> computer testing work. If anyone sees me
heading for a disaster here,
>>> please advise.
>>> Jon.
>>>
>>
>
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From: Jon <Jon@peoplepc.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: A USB Hard Drive of a 16bit MS ME OS booting from a 32BIT
Vista - would it work?
Date:
09/22/2007 13:10:01
"Jon" wrote in message
news:%23xd2$Xm%23HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Jon" wrote in message
> news:%23LuSAeA8HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Old Pgms - I have expensive application
software that works on Win 3.1,
>> Win 98, Win ME (all 16bit I think) on a
2000-era Gateway desktop
>> computer. I have the MS ME OS on a FAT32 hard
drive there. XP Business
>> Office suite works fine on this MS ME. This
desktop is beginning to
>> crater; one of the 2 hard drives already has
bad sectors. The monitor
>> which was already originally a refurb is
about 8-9 years old.
>>
>> New Vista - I also have a 32bit Vista
Ultimate on a new 17" 1.4Ghz
>> notebook. My MS Vista Bios says I can boot
from either a CDROM/DVD, or a
>> main hard drive, or a USB harddrive, or boot
to a LAN. I've put some
>> Office 97 programs on this Vista and a few
other old programs.: all work.
>>
>> USB boot - What I'm thinking of is to take
out my still-working C
>> harddrive Fat32 drive from the 16bit MS ME
desktop and attach a USB
>> connection to it, then boot from it at my
32bit Vista machine.
>>
>> This old C drive is bulging with 40-60 Gb's
of good software that is
>> probably not transferable directly to Vista,
and most don't have new
>> drivers for Vista. (Several programs use
advanced graduate school
>> mathematics to decompose a long data stream
into multiple wave
>> components, etc.) Ideally I would gain a nice
new wide monitor screen
>> and a much faster speed without the years of
trauma trying to install
>> zillions of old specialized programs on Vista
who would balk at each one.
>> If this MS ME boot idea would work, naturally
it would need drivers to
>> find the notebook monitor and keyboard and
mouse, USB's, etc, but I
>> assume that could be done easily. Offhand I'd
think this drive and
>> programs wouldn't know anything has changed
except it now just runs
>> faster.
>>
>> In re-reading the MS Vista help file on dual
boots, they suggest a MS
>> 2000 could work as a duel boot on the same
harddrive as MS Vista. And MS
>> 2000 is a son of MS ME I think: they must be
closely alike, and to their
>> grandson XP. What I don' t know is how would
the 16bit MS ME OS 2000-era
>> and application software on a Fat32 drive
react to a roaring 32bit 1.4Ghz
>> Vista CPU, 2007-era designed for 32bit NTFS
format. I'd think the effect
>> would be the same as if I just put a fast
1.4Ghz CPU in my old MS ME
>> desktop. Any experience, horror stories ,
warnings, successe stories or
>> suggestions ,anyone?
>> Thanks, Jon.
>
> As clarification, 2 old programs on my MS ME
desktop computer had required
> that I make changes in the system.ini file while
they are being installed
> years ago. Once this is done they work great on
MS ME. That's why I can't
> just use the desktop as an appendege to my Vista
computer because the
> Vista booting doesn't do the right tricks to make
these programs work. I
> dimly recall that someone told me this system.ini
trick would not work on
> a NT OS, especially MS Win 3.1 NS. On my Vista
notebook, changing the
> system.ini file has been a problem, but also some
of the registry entries
> don't get written during the program installation
process- and apparently
> the reuired lines are copied into my my personal
"documents" folder. To
> get these old programs to work I have to boot
from a MS ME OS.
>
> * One option is to fix up my 6 year old MS ME and
use it when I want to
> run either of these two programs. To that end, I
ordered a new WD
> harddrive to replace my C ?
> two different computers all the time.
>
> * Another possibility is to obtain a MS XP v2002
OS to upgrade the MS ME
> to XP OS on my desktop FAT32 C drive, (assuming
it won't mess with my
> programs or with the system.ini file) then
somehow get this same XP OS (on
> the old desktop) over to my Vista notebook as
some sort of a multiboot.(I
> assume XP 2002 would have drivers for the
notebook monitor and keyboard.)
> Apparently the XP 2003 OS will not work or
upgrade at all on a MS ME
> computer. When I see written that XP and Vista
can be used in multiboots,
> I can't tell which XP version (2002, 2003, 2007?)
they are talking about.
> Another issue is if I install XP 2002 on my
desktop, Microsoft might want
> me to pay money to reinstall it on my Vista
notebook, which would be a 2nd
> machine.
>
> * Another possibility is to try out the Vistual
PC 2007 which supposedly
> allows Win 98, Win ME, Win XP, etc. to be run
along with Vista. I've
> downloaded the free program and will work on the
courage to tenative try
> it maybe.
>
> I have health problems and don't have spans of
time to do a lot of
> computer testing work. If anyone sees me heading
for a disaster here,
> please advise.
> Jon.
>
I installed the MS VisualPC2007. After install, I
tried to install my MS ME
OS from a backup disk. VisualPC errored me by saying I
can only install the
OS in a Gateway computer (which is what the MS ME OS
disk was made for).
Apparently I cannot install an OS from an OEM disk on
a different computer.
I also tried to install MS Win 98 from a backup disk
of the OS but got the
same answer. So, unless I have a full retail version
of a MS OS at big
bucks, I can't put it on the Virtualpc system.
Meanwhile, I got advice that I could install almost
any size WD harddrive on
my MS ME machine to replace two 40 GB drives there,
one of which has 8 bad
sectors. Both are 6 years old. The new WD 160 GB drive
wouldn't install.
Relooking at the WD brochure that came with the drive
I find that MS ME will
only accept a max 137 GB drive. 160 GB is too big. I
can buy a card for $20
to $70 to make it work, but ... To complicate matters,
I tried to run the
160GB off a proven USB connection on my Vista computer
and it wouldn't
register as a working drive. Maybe it's a dead
harddrive to start with? I'll
just try to return the drive and get a smaller 120GB
or 80GB drive.
I'm now wondering why I spend all that big money on a
Vista computer when
I'll end up fixing my old MS ME computer just to run
programs... There's no
end to all this. Jon the disgruntled.
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From: Jon <Jon@peoplepc.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: A USB Hard Drive of a 16bit MS ME OS booting from a 32BIT
Vista - would it work?
Date:
09/22/2007 13:49:12
"Jon" wrote in message
news:%23xd2$Xm%23HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Jon" wrote in message
> news:%23LuSAeA8HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Old Pgms - I have expensive application
software that works on Win 3.1,
>> Win 98, Win ME (all 16bit I think) on a
2000-era Gateway desktop
>> computer. I have the MS ME OS on a FAT32 hard
drive there. XP Business
>> Office suite works fine on this MS ME. This
desktop is beginning to
>> crater; one of the 2 hard drives already has
bad sectors. The monitor
>> which was already originally a refurb is
about 8-9 years old.
>>
>> New Vista - I also have a 32bit Vista
Ultimate on a new 17" 1.4Ghz
>> notebook. My MS Vista Bios says I can boot
from either a CDROM/DVD, or a
>> main hard drive, or a USB harddrive, or boot
to a LAN. I've put some
>> Office 97 programs on this Vista and a few
other old programs.: all work.
>>
>> USB boot - What I'm thinking of is to take
out my still-working C
>> harddrive Fat32 drive from the 16bit MS ME
desktop and attach a USB
>> connection to it, then boot from it at my
32bit Vista machine.
>>
>> This old C drive is bulging with 40-60 Gb's
of good software that is
>> probably not transferable directly to Vista,
and most don't have new
>> drivers for Vista. (Several programs use
advanced graduate school
>> mathematics to decompose a long data stream
into multiple wave
>> components, etc.) Ideally I would gain a nice
new wide monitor screen
>> and a much faster speed without the years of
trauma trying to install
>> zillions of old specialized programs on Vista
who would balk at each one.
>> If this MS ME boot idea would work, naturally
it would need drivers to
>> find the notebook monitor and keyboard and
mouse, USB's, etc, but I
>> assume that could be done easily. Offhand I'd
think this drive and
>> programs wouldn't know anything has changed
except it now just runs
>> faster.
>>
>> In re-reading the MS Vista help file on dual
boots, they suggest a MS
>> 2000 could work as a duel boot on the same
harddrive as MS Vista. And MS
>> 2000 is a son of MS ME I think: they must be
closely alike, and to their
>> grandson XP. What I don' t know is how would
the 16bit MS ME OS 2000-era
>> and application software on a Fat32 drive
react to a roaring 32bit 1.4Ghz
>> Vista CPU, 2007-era designed for 32bit NTFS
format. I'd think the effect
>> would be the same as if I just put a fast
1.4Ghz CPU in my old MS ME
>> desktop. Any experience, horror stories ,
warnings, successe stories or
>> suggestions ,anyone?
>> Thanks, Jon.
>
> As clarification, 2 old programs on my MS ME
desktop computer had required
> that I make changes in the system.ini file while
they are being installed
> years ago. Once this is done they work great on
MS ME. That's why I can't
> just use the desktop as an appendege to my Vista
computer because the
> Vista booting doesn't do the right tricks to make
these programs work. I
> dimly recall that someone told me this system.ini
trick would not work on
> a NT OS, especially MS Win 3.1 NS. On my Vista
notebook, changing the
> system.ini file has been a problem, but also some
of the registry entries
> don't get written during the program installation
process- and apparently
> the reuired lines are copied into my my personal
"documents" folder. To
> get these old programs to work I have to boot
from a MS ME OS.
>
> * One option is to fix up my 6 year old MS ME and
use it when I want to
> run either of these two programs. To that end, I
ordered a new WD
> harddrive to replace my C ?
> two different computers all the time.
>
> * Another possibility is to obtain a MS XP v2002
OS to upgrade the MS ME
> to XP OS on my desktop FAT32 C drive, (assuming
it won't mess with my
> programs or with the system.ini file) then
somehow get this same XP OS (on
> the old desktop) over to my Vista notebook as
some sort of a multiboot.(I
> assume XP 2002 would have drivers for the
notebook monitor and keyboard.)
> Apparently the XP 2003 OS will not work or
upgrade at all on a MS ME
> computer. When I see written that XP and Vista
can be used in multiboots,
> I can't tell which XP version (2002, 2003, 2007?)
they are talking about.
> Another issue is if I install XP 2002 on my
desktop, Microsoft might want
> me to pay money to reinstall it on my Vista
notebook, which would be a 2nd
> machine.
>
> * Another possibility is to try out the Vistual
PC 2007 which supposedly
> allows Win 98, Win ME, Win XP, etc. to be run
along with Vista. I've
> downloaded the free program and will work on the
courage to tenative try
> it maybe.
>
> I have health problems and don't have spans of
time to do a lot of
> computer testing work. If anyone sees me heading
for a disaster here,
> please advise.
> Jon.
>
Maybe I have a simple problem. I installed on my Vista
notebook my big
program (which works great on my MS ME desktop.)
During the install process
Vista gave this error:
"Warning - files failed to self register"
"c:\program files\common files\microsoft
shared\DAO\Dao350.dll"
I looked in the referenced DAO folder and found the
Dao350.dll file is in
there. My installed program has 6 differerent Master
index files who relate
named procedures with number files like F0062, F0063,
etc. The installed
program apparently won't run because it can't find the
6 Master files to run
the procedures. The Master files installed and are
there as they should be
and have the location of the F0062, etc. files in
them. The install program
only showed the one error above. I suspect the
unregistered "Dao350.dll"
file is supposed to tell the big program the location
or the names of the
Master files, but a link is missing. Probably the
address location above was
supposed to be inserted in the system registry during
the installation
process. I don't know enough about Registry to mess
around with it but maybe
somebody else does. If so maybe my problem is easily
solveable. The retail
price of my big program is $4800, so I don't want to
lose it to Vista. Any
thoughts? Jon.
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From: Ronnie Vernon MVP
<rv@invalid.org>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: 20gb on hard drive but where?
Date:
09/24/2007 00:45:10
Alan
Perform a disk cleanup. It's likely that most of this
space is being used by
system restore and other temp files.
Go to Start and type: disk cleanup in the Search Box.
In the Results,
click Disk Cleanup.
Select "Files from all users on this
computer". Select the drive where Vista
is installed and click OK. The utility will calculate
the space used.
In the results all of the temp files that are safe to
delete will be
checked. Click the More Options Tab, in the System
Restore section, click
the Cleanup Button. You will get a prompt asking
"are you sure you want to
delete all but the latest restore point", click
the Delete Button. Click OK.
Another prompt will again ask are you sure, click
Delete Files.
This will delete all temp files and all but the latest
system restore
points.
Check the used space on the drive again.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
"Alan" wrote in message
news:13B09D5A-B55B-47F7-BBD9-59E450DC061B@microsoft.com...
>I have two 50gb drives on my laptop one is empty
and one has 47gb showing.
>My
> documents has about 24gb there are a couple of gb
on all the other files
> but
> there is over 20gb i cant find. Any ideas anyone
> Regards
> Alan
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From: Alan
<Alan@discussions.microsoft.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: 20gb on hard drive but where?
Date:
09/25/2007 13:32:08
Done all that and managed to get rid of 3.9gb but
still about 19gb on the c
drive i cant find
"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
> Alan
>
> Perform a disk cleanup. It's likely that most of
this space is being used by
> system restore and other temp files.
>
> Go to Start and type: disk cleanup in the Search
Box. In the Results,
> click Disk Cleanup.
>
> Select "Files from all users on this
computer". Select the drive where Vista
> is installed and click OK. The utility will
calculate the space used.
>
> In the results all of the temp files that are
safe to delete will be
> checked. Click the More Options Tab, in the
System Restore section, click
> the Cleanup Button. You will get a prompt asking
"are you sure you want to
> delete all but the latest restore point",
click the Delete Button. Click OK.
> Another prompt will again ask are you sure, click
Delete Files.
>
> This will delete all temp files and all but the
latest system restore
> points.
>
> Check the used space on the drive again.
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Alan" wrote in message
>
news:13B09D5A-B55B-47F7-BBD9-59E450DC061B@microsoft.com...
> >I have two 50gb drives on my laptop one is
empty and one has 47gb showing.
> >My
> > documents has about 24gb there are a couple
of gb on all the other files
> > but
> > there is over 20gb i cant find. Any ideas
anyone
> > Regards
> > Alan
>
Top
From: R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: 20gb on hard drive but where?
Date:
10/02/2007 14:55:35
Hi, Alan.
Open an Administrator:Command Prompt window. (Run
cmd.exe as
Administrator.) This will help you look behind the GUI
to see what is going
on back there. Of course, like any other powerful
technique, it can do at
least as much harm as good it you're not familiar with
it, so be careful.
Many of us cut our computer teeth on (or before)
MS-DOS, so these are second
nature to us, so we may forget to mention some
obvious(?) steps; if you have
questions, just ask.
Type Dir C:\ /s/a - and then get a cup of coffee. On a
big drive with lots
of files, this could take a half-hour or more! To
interrupt it, press
Pause/Break, or Ctrl+C, which is the old version of
the same thing. In
Vista, the Command Prompt window is scrollable, so use
the scroll bar to see
a lot (but maybe not all) of the contents that
scrolled by so quickly.
The Dir (directory) command lists the contents of the
specified directory
(former name for what is not called a folder). By
specifying C:\, we are
starting in the Root ("/") of Drive C:. The
/s switch lists all subfolders
and their contents; the /a shows all files, even those
with Hidden and
System attributes. Type Dir /? to see a mini-Help file
showing all the
switches and parameters available.
Now that you've seen more than you wanted to , it's
time to narrow it
down a bit.
First: Dir C:\ /a - just remove the /s and see all the
files in the Root.
Two files you should probably see are hiberfil.sys and
pagefile.sys, each
about as big as your installed RAM. Hiberfil.sys is
your hibernation file;
until you disable hibernation, it can't be deleted or
moved from C:\.
Pagefile.sys is your paging file; this can be moved to
another drive; if you
need instructions, just ask.
Second: I'm not sure what comes second, because I
can't see your computer.
And I know that you've already done some of the things
that I would suggest
and that Ronnie has advised. But you can go exploring
a piece at a time by
adding parameters to the Dir command: Dir C:\Temp /s/a
When you find
something that you are SURE you don't need, you can
delete it. And if you
find something that shows up WITH /a, but not without
that parameter, then
you can be pretty sure that it is part of your
unexplained or "invisible" 19
GB.
A partial explanation, which can sometimes have more
impact than we expect,
is "slack space". As you probably know, a
single-byte file uses a whole
"cluster" or allocation unit for storage.
The default cluster in NTFS is 4
KB, so 1,000 single-byte files would use 4,000 KB (4
MB), even though a
listing would show only 1,000 bytes used. Actually,
NTFS is smarter than
this, but the general idea is still valid. The point
is that small files
use much more storage space than just the number of
bytes reported by Dir.
If your WLM mail store is on C: (and it is, by
default), then there may be
thousands of .eml and .nws files - mostly smaller than
4 KB each - creating
just this situation.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta 2 in Vista Ultimate
x64 SP1 beta v.275)
"Alan" wrote in message
news:F9999205-81DF-4F8D-8791-E3C8D0C5A5E3@microsoft.com...
> Done all that and managed to get rid of 3.9gb but
still about 19gb on the
> c
> drive i cant find
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>
>> Alan
>>
>> Perform a disk cleanup. It's likely that most
of this space is being used
>> by
>> system restore and other temp files.
>>
>> Go to Start and type: disk cleanup in the
Search Box. In the Results,
>> click Disk Cleanup.
>>
>> Select "Files from all users on this
computer". Select the drive where
>> Vista
>> is installed and click OK. The utility will
calculate the space used.
>>
>> In the results all of the temp files that are
safe to delete will be
>> checked. Click the More Options Tab, in the
System Restore section, click
>> the Cleanup Button. You will get a prompt
asking "are you sure you want
>> to
>> delete all but the latest restore
point", click the Delete Button. Click
>> OK.
>> Another prompt will again ask are you sure,
click Delete Files.
>>
>> This will delete all temp files and all but
the latest system restore
>> points.
>>
>> Check the used space on the drive again.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Alan" wrote in message
>>
news:13B09D5A-B55B-47F7-BBD9-59E450DC061B@microsoft.com...
>> >I have two 50gb drives on my laptop one
is empty and one has 47gb
>> >showing.
>> >My
>> > documents has about 24gb there are a
couple of gb on all the other
>> > files
>> > but
>> > there is over 20gb i cant find. Any
ideas anyone
>> > Regards
>> > Alan
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From: EW <ewyatt_del_me-@excite.com>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: 15GB of unknow space used?
Date:
09/18/2007 18:18:17
"Bob" wrote in message
news:emJQc6f%23HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> I've both Vista Ultimate and Enterprise installed
independently from each
> other in virtual machines.
>
> Ultimate also has Office 2007 and the used
C-Drive is 10.4 GB
>
> Enterprise has nothing additionally installed,
yet its C-Drive is 24 GB!!
>
My first guess is a LOT of system restore points. Just
today, I "cleaned"
my C drive, including 6 months of restore points
(except for the LAST one)
and I reclaimed 30GB of drive space! I was at 44.5 GB
used, now I have only
14GB used. If your system is running well, I'd suggest
getting rid of those
old points.
EW
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From: v-kzhao@online.microsoft.com (Ken
Zhao [MSFT])
To:
none
Subject:
Re: 15GB of unknow space used?
Date:
09/18/2007 22:36:35
Hello Bob,
Thank you for using newsgroup!
From your post, I agree with EW's guess. That is
possible.
Thanks ?
Ken Zhao
Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
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| "Bob" wrote in message
| news:emJQc6f%23HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > Hi,
| >
| > I've both Vista Ultimate and Enterprise
installed independently from
each
| > other in virtual machines.
| >
| > Ultimate also has Office 2007 and the used
C-Drive is 10.4 GB
| >
| > Enterprise has nothing additionally installed,
yet its C-Drive is 24
GB!!
| >
|
| My first guess is a LOT of system restore points.
Just today, I
"cleaned"
| my C drive, including 6 months of restore points
(except for the LAST
one)
| and I reclaimed 30GB of drive space! I was at 44.5
GB used, now I have
only
| 14GB used. If your system is running well, I'd
suggest getting rid of
those
| old points.
|
| EW
|
|
|
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From: Bob
<86c6c2e6-2146512712@news.postalias>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: 15GB of unknow space used?
Date:
09/20/2007 08:30:07
That fixed it, thanks!
Is there a way to to get inside all the Vista locked
folders?
In XP, it was only the System Volume Information that
its ACL's would lock
the admin out, but in Vista, it is scattered all over
the place.
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From: v-kzhao@online.microsoft.com (Ken
Zhao [MSFT])
To:
none
Subject:
Re: 15GB of unknow space used?
Date:
09/21/2007 01:09:58
You may refer to the following article to modify the
access permission:
309531: How to gain access to the System Volume
Information folder
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309531/en-us
Thanks ?
Ken Zhao
Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
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| That fixed it, thanks!
|
| Is there a way to to get inside all the Vista locked
folders?
|
| In XP, it was only the System Volume Information
that its ACL's would
lock
| the admin out, but in Vista, it is scattered all
over the place.
|
|
|
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From: Bob
<86c6c2e6-2146512712@news.postalias>
To:
none
Subject:
Re: 15GB of unknow space used?
Date:
09/22/2007 13:14:30
Thanks Ken,
I've changed the cacls on the System Information File
folder before, but I
didn't realize it was sanctioned by msft.
I have noticed that VSS stores its shawdow copies
there, but I didn't
realize the System Restore kept its backups there also
(probably because I
never use System Restore anway!),
Thanks for the info!
Bob,
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From: v-kzhao@online.microsoft.com (Ken
Zhao [MSFT])
To:
none
Subject:
Re: 15GB of unknow space used?
Date:
09/24/2007 01:45:07
Hi Bob,
Thanks for your reply. If you have any other
questions, please feel free to
contact us.
Thanks ?
Ken Zhao
Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center
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| Thanks Ken,
|
| I've changed the cacls on the System Information
File folder before, but
I
| didn't realize it was sanctioned by msft.
|
| I have noticed that VSS stores its shawdow copies
there, but I didn't
| realize the System Restore kept its backups there
also (probably because
I
| never use System Restore anway!),
|
| Thanks for the info!
|
| Bob,
|
|
|
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